Outer Limits 4x4 Board

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Sam

I'm putting Rangie rear suspension under the back of my Zook, does that count

If you put a rover body on top of the zook, that would count.

But the suspension is a good place to start - just make sure you get the angle of the links correct. The angle of the upper one (the triangle) is probably most important in terms of how much the setup will hop when to throttle it. Dont make the upper too horizontal, keep it pointing uphill a bit if you can.

And yea, make the bottom ones a bit longer than stock also. Just cut them in half, gring down the weld a bit at the stud end (this is a spun friction weld and the two ridges do nothing and can be ground smooth) and slide some big ass heavy tube over the top and weld at each end.

Sam

do you think it would be worthwhile to extend the a-frame?

i realise it is cast or something so could be difficult!

bj on roids wrote:do you think it would be worthwhile to extend the a-frame?

i realise it is cast or something so could be difficult!

It wouldnt be hard to extend cause you would just remake the arms (these bolt onto the centre balljoint part)

I dont really know if is necessary to make them longer if you are just goint to run at the one suspension height. Having a short upper does cause the geometry to work differently. If you drive up something steep and the rear suspension unloads then the short upper links gives you less antisquat which is probably a good thing. So maybe the rear will be more stable on the climbs and have a less of a tendance to start to hop.

I really should explain this more - but stuff it I carnt type fast enough.

Sam

can you please go through it all again?

why does my car hop so bad on hillclimbs?
the tractionbar apparently!!

NOW, removing the traction bar, will cause tailshaft binding and pinion snapping axle wrap....SO it is the lesser of two evils! :(

im at a catch 22 :(

sam i have my links too 8)

sam
would changing the ball to a pin type arrangement have any detrimental effects ?, apart from free rotational movement and the ability to shim adjust the pinion angle being a couple of the advantages would the rubber bush setup limit it in any way, how much lateral deflection is incurred through the arc of travel?

thanks
Greg

Strange Rover wrote:But the suspension is a good place to start - just make sure you get the angle of the links correct. The angle of the upper one (the triangle) is probably most important in terms of how much the setup will hop when to throttle it. Dont make the upper too horizontal, keep it pointing uphill a bit if you can.
Sam

OK, so do you mean at the ball joint end it should be lower than the chassis mount end???

Strange Rover wrote:And yea, make the bottom ones a bit longer than stock also. Just cut them in half, gring down the weld a bit at the stud end (this is a spun friction weld and the two ridges do nothing and can be ground smooth) and slide some big ass heavy tube over the top and weld at each end.
Sam

Will do! How long you reckon? I was thinking about 900mm

I am going to pick up the bits tomorrow, I hope the bastard has pulled them off the car by now!!!

1MadEngineer wrote:sam
would changing the ball to a pin type arrangement have any detrimental effects ?, apart from free rotational movement and the ability to shim adjust the pinion angle being a couple of the advantages would the rubber bush setup limit it in any way, how much lateral deflection is incurred through the arc of travel?

thanks
Greg

I guess you can do that but be carefull bacause at this end of the upper triangle (where the "ball joint"is) it does have to be able to move in every direction. It has to rotate when the axle articulates, rotate up and down as the axle moves up and down and it also has to allow the axle to move forward on one side because when one side droops it will walk forward. So whatever you put in there it must be able to rotate in all directions (some more than others)

Not sure what you mean when you say "would the rubber bush setup limit it in any way, how much lateral deflection is incurred through the arc of travel?"

Sam

Damo wrote:

Strange Rover wrote:But the suspension is a good place to start - just make sure you get the angle of the links correct. The angle of the upper one (the triangle) is probably most important in terms of how much the setup will hop when to throttle it. Dont make the upper too horizontal, keep it pointing uphill a bit if you can.
Sam

OK, so do you mean at the ball joint end it should be lower than the chassis mount end???

Strange Rover wrote:And yea, make the bottom ones a bit longer than stock also. Just cut them in half, gring down the weld a bit at the stud end (this is a spun friction weld and the two ridges do nothing and can be ground smooth) and slide some big ass heavy tube over the top and weld at each end.
Sam

Will do! How long you reckon? I was thinking about 900mm

I am going to pick up the bits tomorrow, I hope the bastard has pulled them off the car by now!!!

Yes and yes. I think mine are about 1100mm but I will check.

Sam

hey bj just come out to BOOTIE FAB workshop and check out my three link, looks pretty good and so far seems to work pretty good.

Did you see the pics on pirate.

It started off as rangie idea and BOOTIE took it from there.

bootie is the god of four wheeling 8)

Got a question over in the Zook section as well... I need to mount the rangie ball joint to the zook axle housing, i've got an idea how to do it but wanted to hear other ppls ideas.

Booty fab or is that bodgy fab. the 3 link will be the best part of that boatlux


Mick

Bodgy fab, hell yeh plenty of sellys no more gaps and ten tins of black paint no one will even know.

Boatlux no longer, i have chopped about two feet off the arse end, and re-fabing a new try and front bar.

Think i might call it BOBTAIL

Hi again to all.
hope to pick up RR from Auto elec next sat.
Michael.

POS wrote:Bodgy fab, hell yeh plenty of sellys no more gaps and ten tins of black paint no one will even know.

Boatlux no longer, i have chopped about two feet off the arse end, and re-fabing a new try and front bar.

Think i might call it BOBTAIL

NAW he should call himself

BODGETAIL 8) BWAHAHAHA

the boatlux will eat the rover for breakfast, and cross bass strait by lunchtime!!

heres a rover

good one, nice redX!!

hi there new to this site im a rover ower it a78 mod standered at the moment plant to do a 2'' body lift + 33" tyre at chisy and then front + rear maxis then supenion mods .so hallo to all