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coils

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:12 pm
by will
how muc $$$$ is it to put coils onto a leaf sprung 60 series

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:56 pm
by just cruizin'
I'm not sure of your finanical situation but you may have wandered into the "If you have to ask you can't afford section". Budget about $10K for the front, leave it man and buy an 80.

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:41 pm
by dumbdunce
it depends if you mean a full coil/link setup, or helper coils, retaining some leafs to locate the axle. on the rear it is fairly simple to do a full coil setup as there is space, but in the front the chassis is too wide for coils to fit between the chassis and the wheel, it's not impossible bit it is a major headache. I'd say $10k woud not be unreasonable - parts alone would run to $3 - 5k for links, coils, shocks and all the little bits and pieces that make such a job expensive. since you can buy a beater 80 for under $10k, it would probably be cheaper and easier to shorten an 80 chassis and lower your 60 series chell onto it - if you REALLY wanted a coily 60.

60

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:17 pm
by will
i wanted to do it cause i already have the 60.. ive choped it n its got a hole heep of stuff done 2 it n i thought a coil over or sumthin would be easyer

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:44 pm
by Bluey
dumbdunce wrote:it depends if you mean a full coil/link setup, or helper coils, retaining some leafs to locate the axle. on the rear it is fairly simple to do a full coil setup as there is space, but in the front the chassis is too wide for coils to fit between the chassis and the wheel, it's not impossible bit it is a major headache. I'd say $10k woud not be unreasonable - parts alone would run to $3 - 5k for links, coils, shocks and all the little bits and pieces that make such a job expensive. since you can buy a beater 80 for under $10k, it would probably be cheaper and easier to shorten an 80 chassis and lower your 60 series chell onto it - if you REALLY wanted a coily 60.
hey Brian, would putting helper coils in the front make much difference to the front end handling and articulation. how many leafs would need to be removed too?

would it be cheaper to buy axle/diff assemblies from a coil sprung car and go from there? might be able to srounge up some links and stuff from mates who have upgraded theie shit for a short time fix (and cheaper too)?


Lance

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:48 pm
by Spartacus
seriously dude for what we do just coils the rear.

me- i reckon u should just rip out the ass end of n 80 an stick it to the cut 60
for simplicity since u have plenty of room. however 3 link and coilover would kick ass

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:06 am
by dumbdunce
Bluey wrote:
dumbdunce wrote:it depends if you mean a full coil/link setup, or helper coils, retaining some leafs to locate the axle. on the rear it is fairly simple to do a full coil setup as there is space, but in the front the chassis is too wide for coils to fit between the chassis and the wheel, it's not impossible bit it is a major headache. I'd say $10k woud not be unreasonable - parts alone would run to $3 - 5k for links, coils, shocks and all the little bits and pieces that make such a job expensive. since you can buy a beater 80 for under $10k, it would probably be cheaper and easier to shorten an 80 chassis and lower your 60 series chell onto it - if you REALLY wanted a coily 60.
hey Brian, would putting helper coils in the front make much difference to the front end handling and articulation. how many leafs would need to be removed too?

would it be cheaper to buy axle/diff assemblies from a coil sprung car and go from there? might be able to srounge up some links and stuff from mates who have upgraded theie shit for a short time fix (and cheaper too)?


Lance
do you want handling, or articulation? 60 series fronts tend to flex up pretty well without any help. helper coils will improve ride comfort and possibly handling but will not do anything for flex.

there's probably not much gain in getting axles off a coily and using them as you will have to chop everything off and start again to suit the 60s chassis. it might be possible to coil up the front of a 60 using a 80 series or GQ front axle, if there is enough extra width to squeeze the coils between the wheel and the chassis, but I doubt it unless you find some very narrow coils. then you have the problem of your wheels sticking out of the guards etc - evey solution brings more problems with it.

if you want coils, but and 80 or a GQ. if you want coils with comfort, buy an 80.

60

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:37 am
by will
wat bout an 80 series engine... would that bolt up 2 a 60 series gear box ect

Re: 60

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:20 am
by dumbdunce
will wrote:wat bout an 80 series engine... would that bolt up 2 a 60 series gear box ect
not really.

you can bolt a 1HZ (or 1HD-(F)T) to a H55F gearbox but you need a bellhousing from a HZJ75, and need to shorten the bellhousing. the engine moutns are not the same.