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Spring Spacers OR New springs

Tech Talk for Rover owners.

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Spring Spacers OR New springs

Post by Tony78rr »

Where would I get 1 - 2" spring spacers from in Vic? Have 2.5 inch bump stop clearance at the front and 4" at the rear but want more lift but like the soft coils that are on it? am I wasting my time and would I be better to replace the springs! The RR is only used off road .

Thanks in advance!
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Post by HSV Rangie »

Try this list of springs may help.
remember raising front will cause the loss of castor.
RR have 2.5 degrees Std and you loose half a degree for every one inch lift.
Will most likly have vibe issues after 75mm lift, but all is correctable.

Spring Free Lth Installed Lth Bstop
Rear 17.8x320 17.8 14.37 6.37
Rear 16.8x320 16.8 13.37 5.37
Rear 17.8x270 17.8 13.8 5.8
Rear 16.8x270 16.8 12.8 4.8
Rear 220x18 18 13 5
Rear 220x17 17 12 4



Spring Free Lth Installed Lth Bstop
Front 220x17 17 13 5
Front 220x16 16 12 4
Front 220x15.5 15.5 11.5 3.5
Front 180x15.9 15.9 11.1 3.1
Front 180x16.5 16.5 11.7 3.7
Front 180x17.2 17.2 12.4 4.4


Hope this helps
Michael.
Last edited by HSV Rangie on Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:19 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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1986 RR.
Custom suspension links etc.
HSV 215 engine.
4.3 diffs.
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Post by Tony78rr »

Thanks Michael! Where would I be best to get springs from?
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Post by Bodge »

Thats a really useful way to write it up Michael - any idea what the stock versions would be?
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Post by HSV Rangie »

In Vic springs available from.

Rangie spares
AMV Automotive.
Toorak tractor.
Range rove recovery.

And others.

Custom lth and weights from Jacob springs aprox $100.00 each.

Michael.
Mitsubishi 2010 NT DID Pajero wagon, Factory rear diff lock, Dual batteries, ARB bar, winch, Mt ATZ 4 rib tyres.
1986 RR.
Custom suspension links etc.
HSV 215 engine.
4.3 diffs.
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Post by landy_man »

HSV Rangie wrote: Spring Free Lth Installed Lth Bstop
Rear 17.8x320 17.8 14.37 6.37
Rear 16.8x320 16.8 13.37 5.37
Rear 17.8x270 17.8 13.8 5.8
Rear 16.8x270 16.8 12.8 4.8
Rear 220x18 18 13 5
Rear 220x17 17 12 4



Spring Free Lth Installed Lth Bstop
Front 220x17 17 13 5
Front 220x16 16 12 4
Front 220x15.5 15.5 11.5 3.5
Front 180x15.9 15.9 11.1 3.1
Front 180x16.5 16.5 11.7 3.7
Front 180x17.2 17.2 12.4 4.4


Hope this helps
Michael.


yes BUT with what weight...Your installed length and bumpstop clearance measurements are directly related to the weight.
On my car - '84RR, I use a lighter spring and get a taller lift than a mate with a '93.
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Post by suzidisco »

Are there any benifits or problems of running spacers as i was looking at putting in some 30mm spacers
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Post by HSV Rangie »

Landyman,
very true.

I have currently a Holden V8 in my RR.

Front has steel b/bar.

Rear. step bumper and spare wheel carrier.

Michael.
Mitsubishi 2010 NT DID Pajero wagon, Factory rear diff lock, Dual batteries, ARB bar, winch, Mt ATZ 4 rib tyres.
1986 RR.
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Post by derangedrover »

If your going to use more than a 25mm/1" spacer you will need to lower your bumpstop to stop the spring binding on compression. This is with a stock inboard bumpstop and stock stroke shocks.

If you have longer travel shocks and stock position bumpstops the compressed side will compress further than normal and you may find the spring binds earlier during articulation. Not a huge issue since in straight compression they will be ok, only under articulation it might bind.

spacer can be handy because you dont alter the ultimate position of the shock in a compressed situation but gain the lift and if the shock is long enough more droop.

spacers in front accentuate the curve of the spring which can be a problem too.

Anyone playing with springs should use a known poundage spring (stock 130's for example) and figure out the real weight on each corner and then use that to spec their new springs according to the ride height and rate they want. Level the rig with spacers or most places can supply longer/shorter springs in the same rate. ie 220lb and 180lb 18" free and 17" free are off the shelf from the places listed

Cheers
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Post by landy_man »

derangedrover wrote:. Level the rig with spacers or most places can supply longer/shorter springs in the same rate. ie 220lb and 180lb 18" free and 17" free are off the shelf from the places listed

Cheers
Daryl


agreed 100% spacers should only really be used to level the ride out buy not more than 1"... if more "levelling" is required there is usually a spring that would do the job better without spacers
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Post by Aquarangie »

I had a set of 30mm spring packers made up at a local engeneering shop and they wern't cheap (I think I paid abouyt $300 a set to have them made!!). I have removed them now as my insurace company were not too impressed with what I had done and had to remove them to get insurance obn Aquarangie.

Make sure you get the right shocks or your efort is a waste of time.

Regards,

Trav

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