Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Ilike probably lots of you have had problems with my steering rod that runs from the pitman arm to the passenger side swivel hub bending when the front end reaches max articulation I have a 5 link front end and 4 inch coils
I sort of fixed this by making a s shaped steering arm to reduce the angle on the tie rods works great but when turning the rod twists making the tierods contact the swivel hub or the pitman arm making loud banging noises im thinking its only a matter of time untill it brakes

Was wondering if anyone had toyed with the idea of lifting the conection point on the passengerside swivel hub so as to beable to use a standard steering arm running level across the front of the vehicle I wa going to use some 1 inch thick flat bar to bolt on the top of the swivel hub and also bolt into the original conection point on the swivel hub making a good strong mounting then machining a tapperd hole to suit the tierod might have to make the steering arm shorter as it now dosent have to run down at an angle also makes it higher and keeps it out of harms way any thoughts would be great or am i the only one suffering from this thought Carlton mod was good but leaves every thing low and exposed

gu power steering box and pitman arm ?

Good idea Duncan, But its been done. We have them for sale, for more info give me a buzz Cheezy Racing 03 97618111.

duncan wrote:Carlton mod was good but leaves every thing low and exposed

I actually only did what I did to get the tie-rod up out of the rocks, but it did end up lifting the knuckle end of the draglink about 50mm as well.
I never had a problem with the draglink once I ran one that had the ends tweaked flat, but I was bending a tierod every trip out.

duncan wrote:leaves every thing low and exposed

Wrong.

If you lift the steering would you have to lift the panhard as well ? they have to be at the same angle or they would be fighting each other.

yeah, my draglink and panhard sit at slightly different angles now, can't really notice it. They are pretty much exactly the same length now, which at least means they are swinging on the same radius, something that nissan never really got right.

Carlton, Have you sorted out the steering dampers out yet and if so —how is the bump-steer on your new GQ/MQ hybrid steering set up? Has having the steering arm and panhard rod a similar length made it any better than before?

yeah, I put a steering damper on it and brought the castor down a little and it drives nice. Less bumpsteer than before, so the length similarity must improve it a lot, as the angle difference I have is more than stock and should, theoreticaly, make it a lot worse.

also, if you didn't flip the ball joints to the top of the arms, like I did, the angles and lengths would be damn close to identical, and still have much better clearance than stock GQ.

Hi,

My setup for 5 link is made (by myself...) using this kind of king pin 1" thick plate (but made in a sort of "Z" shape, to have an even more zero angle for the rod...(do yoy understand what I mean?!).
The problem was that this piece can't be tied very strong...in about 200 km running Simex get loose and I have to stop and re-tied it....preaty dengerous, isn'T?!?!
If you want to see in details what kind of setup I'm talking about go to www.pirate4x4.com, there in Technical pages you will find an article regarding steering...I'm preaty sure it helps.

Regards

I forget to tell you I have made a longer panhard rod support to the chassis...