Outer Limits 4x4 Board

just wondering if any knows or has in their own truck 4in springs and rancho shocks that suit 6in lift, and if so does the spring drop out of the mount because of this?

Depends on what they mean by suits 6" lift.

If it means that there is 6" longer fully extended and you have 4" longer springs they wont fall out..... I have 4" longer rear shocks and 2" springs.

Without knowing exact dimension though you'd never work it out.

ridepro competition shocks in my GU, with 5" ridepro rear springs, and lovells front 6" springs, while we work on a new front spring currently, to go with the bypass shocks.

fronts are 455mm odd closed and 650ish extended, and rears are 480ish closed, and 760ish open, needing a 30mm front bump stop spacer, and a 50mm rear, but we offset the rear bump stop spacer, when fitting it to the diff, so at slow articulation, where the shock has an internal lock, that wont damage it, the bump stop can travel down beside the spacer, but at speed, the car will use the bump stop spacers, on the bump stops.

The rear springs stay captive, just, and the fronts do, because of the 30mm spacer on the diff housing.

Dont know about rancho's, as we normally take them off, not put them on

at one stage i had rancho 9022's and wizard 7" that came loose at full flex and would sometimes unseat

cheers bru

ok ive measured up, i currently have 6in tough dog springs with rancho rs99012 on the rear, which are 500mm closed and 820mm fully extented, these were measured from centre to centre of the eye, fronts are rs99014 which measure 430mm closed and 670mm fully extended, measured from in between the 2 bushes end to end, so can anyone tell me if my shocks will be to long for 4in spings, reason for this i have to drop the truck 50 mm for engineering, so if it will work i might just leave the 4in springs in, it might flex better? what do u think?

I wouldnt use Ranchos if they were given to me in a Patrol/or Cruiser.

bogged wrote:I wouldnt use Ranchos if they were given to me in a Patrol/or Cruiser.

Why is that???

Mintoy wrote:

bogged wrote:I wouldnt use Ranchos if they were given to me in a Patrol/or Cruiser.

Why is that???

The reason being patrols and cruiser are quite heavy, and the rancho shocks even they may give you the travel you require corrugated roads or heavy 4wding will seem them fade very quickly and with ranchos they generally shagged once they get to hot.

I dont understand why people go to all this effort of having long travel when there shocks are going to fade when driven hard.

Either do a dual shock setup or spend the money right the first time and buy a decent shock to cope with the weight of a patrol or a cruiser.

remember an 80 series model shocks will allow for upto 4" coil in a GQ or GU

morkz wrote:

Mintoy wrote:

bogged wrote:I wouldnt use Ranchos if they were given to me in a Patrol/or Cruiser.

Why is that???

The reason being patrols and cruiser are quite heavy, and the rancho shocks even they may give you the travel you require corrugated roads or heavy 4wding will seem them fade very quickly and with ranchos they generally shagged once they get to hot.

I dont understand why people go to all this effort of having long travel when there shocks are going to fade when driven hard.

Either do a dual shock setup or spend the money right the first time and buy a decent shock to cope with the weight of a patrol or a cruiser.

remember an 80 series model shocks will allow for upto 4" coil in a GQ or GU

even the TD 45mm shocks are prone to failure when used on long haul trips on corrugated roads when set to a high setting such as 9. the further you restrict the shock the more friction created that caused heat and the primary reason why any shock fades and prematurely fails. for a normally loaded patrol or cruiser used on normal roads and 4weeling then a larger bore ie over 40mm will be sufficient. add the kind of weight of a full loaded tourer headed for the cape of the desert ie rear bar front bar winch water tank duel battery extra spare tyre duel fuel tanks roof rack and all the gear then the wieght is considerable and the size shock required to deal with the added stresses will be beyond a TD 45mm let alon a rancho unless duel shock arangments are put in but then the cost of 2 shocks per corner as well as the set up costs you are still better off looking at a ralf or a big bilstein

For GQ's
I agree about the Rancho and Tough Dog comments and I can't comment about Ralph but Dobinsons($100e) and Procomps($125) are very good value.

Every shock has its limits when it comes to high speed corrogation driving so I would give them a rest now and then to be safe but I would put my faith in Dobinsons shocks and if you can't find one the right length I would also put my faith in Procomps.

If I had the money I would buy the Bilsteins shocks. Obviously dual shocks will work better if you can get the setup right. Whatever shocks you choose it would be wise to carry spares when you are in remote areas.

Shane

Bilsteins arent that dear in comparison to the other brands, and especially in control and longevity, though we do use different bushes in some applications.

But now the 2" and 4" lift shocks have been ordered to suit nissan, from Bilstein Germany, they are still about 4 months away.

Just need to finish the Fox bypass shox install before the Tassie trip in Feb now with a cold rolled spring running a soft top 3 coil rate, to allow for the extra travel from them.

Just need to finish the Fox bypass shox install before the Tassie trip in Feb now with a cold rolled spring running a soft top 3 coil rate, to allow for the extra travel from them.[/quote]

How we going?any kits yet.

Ian.