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DIESEL INTO FJ 73
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:14 pm
by roscoFJ73
Got an opportunity to buy a good HZJ 75 4.2 ltr diesel off someone who is putting a chev 6.2 into his. I want to know about the compatability with my H55T g/box into my FJ 73 and any other info or experience anyone has.
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:11 pm
by Skip
From what I have read they are exactly the same gearbox. You shouldnt run into any problems.
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:33 pm
by MUSS
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:31 pm
by roscoFJ73
Jake Ive always been a diesel man,dad was a truckie.The FJ 73 come a long and was such a bargain i couldnt resist it. Also I didnt want a troopie because their too big and I didnt want a ute or traytop because of the limitations. I dont know why Toyota didnt sell these in oz with diesels in the 1st place.I didnt want a 4 cyl diesel for long trips
Any way I ll have to fit filters , new power steering pump.Other things to think of Im not too sure about is radiator, aircon, air filter, some way of turning it off at the ignition switch.
Some ones got a 60000 klm HZJ 75 rolling chassis with motor , gear box t/case for $5000. Donor vehicle would make it easier .
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:21 am
by beanz2
Rosco, the gearbox will have different input shafts. See if you can get the tranny off the HZJ75 and it should bolt to your transfer.
The radiator will be fine as the the inlet and oulet are in the correct position. You will need to fabricate the motor mounts as they are different between the 3F and the 1HZ. The fuel shutoff solenoid should be simple enough to connect to the ignition terminal.
I'm sort of in the middle of a 1HZ swap into an FJ40 but I got bogged down by other projects
Dave
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:43 am
by roscoFJ73
Thanks for that beanz . I kind of suspected the input shaft would be different.
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:01 am
by bj on roids
Skip wrote:From what I have read they are exactly the same gearbox. You shouldnt run into any problems.
they are different boxes. Im not sure if there is a conversion available either. Try the rod shop.
How much is the motor?
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:33 am
by Skip
Don't they have identical gear ratios, and identical output shaft?
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:42 am
by beanz2
Yeah, identical ratios, output shaft, even bellhousing (clutch housing) bolt patterns. Just different input shafts.
Dave
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:52 am
by bj on roids
H55, and R152 (i think) definitely different, one is cast steel the other is aluminium.
Maybe they do interchange!!
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:03 am
by beanz2
The HZJ75 still had the 21-spline input H55 I think. The R151 doesn't start until the HZJ78/79. Rosco's FJ73 should have the 10-spline H55.
Dave
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:26 pm
by bj on roids
the 3B input shaft had 21 splines right?
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:55 pm
by Skip
Do any of you guys have any more info on the R151? Im putting a supra motor which had a R154 manual into a landy with a R151 and was wondering if the R154 and R151 bellhousings are identical, so I can just buy a R154 supra bellhousing from the wreckers.
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:14 am
by beanz2
bj on roids wrote:the 3B input shaft had 21 splines right?
Hmmm, I don't know. Never checked it on a 3B engine, but the ones I have seen have a really long input shaft, so I doubt the 1HZ bellhousing will work. But I know you can fab anything, Rob
Dave
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 7:39 am
by bj on roids
beanz2 wrote:bj on roids wrote:the 3B input shaft had 21 splines right?
Hmmm, I don't know. Never checked it on a 3B engine, but the ones I have seen have a really long input shaft, so I doubt the 1HZ bellhousing will work. But I know you can fab anything, Rob
Dave
ROFL yeah the B series input shaft was weird cause it had heaps more splines but was way too long.....
yeah cut and weld the bellhousing
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:51 pm
by roscoFJ73
Ok will you guys stop doing piss circles on my driveway and gimme back my thread
This is the plan.Im going to look at a HZJ75 rolling chassis with motor g/box diffs powersteering suspension and a heap of other stuff . Its a 93 and the current owner has had it since the rollover and guarantees its only done 55000klm. He is a cruiser head and owns several and planned a rebuild but never got around to it .
I think this is the best way to go about it as I need the suspension and power steering anyway. Its gona hurt the pocket but my old motor g/box and t/case are still good and I hope to recoup some of the money.The cost of the rolling chassis is 5000 neg. I think I have to get new mounts huh?? or can I use the ones off the donor and reweld em on to the 73.
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:59 am
by beanz2
sorry for hijacking it. I am also looking into putting a 1HD-T into my HJ75. From what I can see in the parts books, the welded on mounts to the chassis are different between the HJ and the HZJ frames. I suspect it is also the case with the FJ73. I am planning to get the chassis mounts from Toyota if I can't get them used, but having a complete rolling chassis is the less expensive way to go. I would just cut them out from the donor and weld them in.
Let me know if the HJ73 gauges and the senders work with the 1HZ. From what I can see the HZJ75 gauge cluster will not mate with my HJ75 wiring.
I can't tell you if AU$5000 is reasonable for your part of the world, but for me it surely is.
Why do you want the HZJ75 suspension?
Dave
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 1:55 am
by roscoFJ73
I glad you asked me about the suspension.Come to think of it , it might be different.Im still thinkin about selling it and buying a low klm import.Cost me the same and keep my hands clean and less headaches
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 6:24 am
by beanz2
The front suspension may be similar but the rear will have much higher spring rates.
If you want to sell the HZJ75 rolling chassis I am interested. I have a friend near Perth who may be able to handle the shipping for me. I'll have to ask him first, LOL.
Dave