Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Found this on ebay, i recon it would have some pretty strong diffs in it poss dana 60s. Anyone know anything about them?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Unique-4x4-Inter ... dZViewItem

Andrew

Has a closed knuckle D60 in the front. I beleive they have the same size Ujoints as a D44. I think the rear may be a 12bolt.

so not the best good front diff for a rock crawler?
what has a f250 4x4 got? open knuckle dana 60 with larger cvs?

I hope that if you buy it you're gonna take to it with a huge angle grinder. That is one of the ugliest things i've ever seen.

Would make a good off road "Mr Whippy" van

andrew e wrote:so not the best good front diff for a rock crawler?
what has a f250 4x4 got? open knuckle dana 60 with larger cvs?

I think the old ones have 44s and the new ones have the d60 center with d44 axles, called a d50

If it's anything like the 1300 series Inter fire trucks i used to fix, you can't get parts for them. The front diff was a modified 44 - basically a rear diff with steering knuckles welded on, and was built in Australia for a very limited period.

They were however set up with a 392 V8 and an Allison 6 speed auto. the diff ratios were 4.88:1. and no power steering.

Steer clear unless it's reallllllly cheap

RUFF wrote:Has a closed knuckle D60 in the front. I beleive they have the same size Ujoints as a D44. I think the rear may be a 12bolt.

Any idea if a closed knuckle D60 be clearanced for open knuckle D60 sized UJs?

ISUZUROVER wrote:

RUFF wrote:Has a closed knuckle D60 in the front. I beleive they have the same size Ujoints as a D44. I think the rear may be a 12bolt.

Any idea if a closed knuckle D60 be clearanced for open knuckle D60 sized UJs?

Then u would need custom D60 axles???

jeep97tj wrote:

ISUZUROVER wrote:

RUFF wrote:Has a closed knuckle D60 in the front. I beleive they have the same size Ujoints as a D44. I think the rear may be a 12bolt.

Any idea if a closed knuckle D60 be clearanced for open knuckle D60 sized UJs?

Then u would need custom D60 axles???

I don't see why that would matter? If I was going to build/install a D60 I would fit alloy axles anyway. It wouldn't be much difference if they were custom length or stock length.

And with some of these new style ujs without bearings you could fill the closed knuckle full of grease or thin oil and the UJs should last a long time.

Ben, what UJs are these? ive never heard of UJs without bearings. i'd assume they would have a bronze bush of some sort? Is it mandatory to run them in oil?

Andrew.

andrew e wrote:Ben, what UJs are these? ive never heard of UJs without bearings. i'd assume they would have a bronze bush of some sort? Is it mandatory to run them in oil?

Andrew.

Longfield 300M UJs (halfway down).
http://longfieldsuperaxles.com/

All the US rigs running these would be open-knuckle. You are just supposed to grease them regularly (they are meant for part-time or off-road only). But if they were continually running in oil I dont see why they wouldn't last.

Edit - longfields have a 300m cross and 4340 caps without bushes or bearings.

CTMs have bronze bushes in the caps. But both would be expected to wear faster than UJs with bearings.

why not go for those dana 60 cv's ? only 2600US You could buy a complete mog diff cheaper id think. Speaking of mogs, any cheap diffs over there Ben?

andrew e wrote:why not go for those dana 60 cv's ? only 2600US You could buy a complete mog diff cheaper id think. Speaking of mogs, any cheap diffs over there Ben?

Yep, plenty of them. You can get a pair (steer and non steer) of 404s for under e300 ($500 AUD). The only problem is you need to buy a whole mog to get them for that price. You can strip the mog of the axles and then get a scrap metal place to cart it away, but unless it is completely oil, grease and fuel free, you have to pay cleaning/recycling costs.

wild rig that. sad to see a unique vehicle chopped up. hope it goes to good home