Outer Limits 4x4 Board

What are terrain capabilities of feroza? I did not found any data.

You could work it out for yourself with a couple of long sticks and a protractor!

For the second pic...

Approach angle: 40 degrees
Departure Angle: 30 degrees

and the Min ground clearance is 205 mm.

Just go test out the other two until it falls over.. then you know your limits

Try http://www.warfs.org for the specs.

nebivedu wrote:What are terrain capabilities of feroza?

... dont know..... but the capabilities of a Rocky are UN-LIMITED

LOL @ F70


I got them few angles from WARFS

HotFourOk wrote:For the second pic...

Approach angle: 40 degrees
Departure Angle: 30 degrees

and the Min ground clearance is 205 mm.

Just go test out the other two until it falls over.. then you know your limits

I already turn my feroza on the side, then on the roofm, to the other side and to wheels then i continue to drive. It was on soft trial offroad race. The speed was only 30km/h.
Broke my last right window, broke left door.

I'd highly recommend some big flares and offset your wheels a lot more to gain some stablity, it lessens the chance of rolling over.

It is done - feroza is now 6cm wider

How would I go about widening my narrow track a bit? It looks a bit tipsy with the suspension lift.

I don't really want to get wider tyres than what I already got, for a number of reasons. Would different rims or spacers (do they exist?) work?

F100's and sierra's have wider offsets IIRC. Failing that, ~$55ea gets you brand spankin sunraisers with an offset of your choice

Perhaps while on topic someone could clarify this, but I've heard running offsets or spacers will wear wheel bearings out? Is this true, and would it be noticably (to the hip pocket ) bad? I understand why it would wear em out quicker, theoretically, looking for reall life experiences to the degree of wear they impose on the bearings.

if you use a offset to wide it puts more load out past the wheel bearing
and may make it heat up the outer bearing . as this was happening on my tool tralior . told to keep the offset down to a min for every day use .but if you use a different set off wheels 4 off road it may be no poblems

i got the speedy Desert Rat
15x8.0 ET-28 5x139.7.
they are a fair bit wider then stock rims, the rims themselves stick out past the guards on my f100 el3.
Been over 1 year with these rims and 30" BFG's and no issues with bearings yet.

Wheel offset ( and spacers ) can be a real killer for wheel bearings. If you lock on stock vehicles the centre of the wheel is directly over the bearing centre's. If you offset the rims the wheel starts to have levarage on the bearings which can cause bearing problems. It also affects the front steering geometry.

Also wise to check legality of spacers.....

Track increases (measured middle of tyre to middle of tyre) are usually limited by law to 26mm IIRC. That's all due to the bearing failure thing mentioned already and the change it causes in steering geometry (can affect handling.)

I think you'll find spacers are illegal in all states due to the extra strain it puts on the studs (and the fact they probably won't be long enough to bolt the wheel on properly anymore.)

Wider tyres with a small increase in rim offset will give a big improvement (the extra tyre width is shared equally each side of the rim and doesn't alter the track width.)

Most wheelspacers worth buying will give you a 'new' set of studs so you dont lose any lenght. You bolt on the wheelspace to the studs on your axle, and then bolt the wheel onto the OTHER studs off the wheelspacer , like these - http://www.bbmotorsports.com.au/category11_1.htm

You can get crappy lil ~6mm spacer off ebay and alike, but its essentially just a round disc with holes in it, may aswell DIY if you want that option

Sounds like spacers present are more of a risk than they're worth. Anyway I was never keen on them very much.

That just leaves different rims, and unless I feel rich I might as well put up with the stock ones since I recently got new tyres.

Are their rims with the same/similar width that are designed in such a way that they sit further out (to widen the track)? Sounds crazy but just had to ask.

The most important thing is I take her off road, as she hasn't seen any dirt for sometime now.

rowdy24 wrote:Are their rims with the same/similar width that are designed in such a way that they sit further out (to widen the track)? Sounds crazy but just had to ask.

That's what the "offset" is that was mentioned above.

Just dont overlook the fact that the effect of spacers and rim offset are exactly the same - the centre of the rim is no longer over the bearing.

Don't confuse this with rim width - they can be wider but still have zero offset.

Be carefull with offset no matter how its created.

Using large offset rims will affect steering geometry. It alters the scrub radius, which makes steering much more heavy and wears tyres more. But if you are prepared to put up with that, and ensure that your bearings are always checked etc, then its not that bad an option. I run big offset rims on my sierra, and have no trouble.
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