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Shackle setup

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 3:10 pm
by Singo17
I thought this was interesting

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 3:52 pm
by greg
sorry but i don't think that is going to work...

The spring will have to do all the twisting to allow one side of the axel to droop - this means that it will bind up and restrict travel right?

infact - if the spring isn't able to twist as much as they want it to - the only travel that car will get at the back will be if the whole axel drops down the same amount on each side...

moral to the story - you can't expect the spring to twist very much and have to have some twist in your shackles to get full travel out of your leaf sprung suspension setup.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 4:10 pm
by Singo17
greg wrote:sorry but i don't think that is going to work...

The spring will have to do all the twisting to allow one side of the axel to droop - this means that it will bind up and restrict travel right?

infact - if the spring isn't able to twist as much as they want it to - the only travel that car will get at the back will be if the whole axel drops down the same amount on each side...

moral to the story - you can't expect the spring to twist very much and have to have some twist in your shackles to get full travel out of your leaf sprung suspension setup.


One of the reasons I thought it was interesting he calls it a stabilising shackle.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 4:30 pm
by greg
Singo17 wrote:One of the reasons I thought it was interesting he calls it a stabilising shackle.


Sorry - missed that bit - but you are right - it would effecively work like an anti roll bar i guess...

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 7:26 pm
by Area54
He may have a pivot on the spring perch... pic does not show lower area.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 7:52 pm
by Singo17
Area54 wrote:He may have a pivot on the spring perch... pic does not show lower area.




Here ya go!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 7:55 pm
by moose
SPRING PERCH !!!!!!!!

that looks like front mount/bush !!!!!!! :D :D :P :P

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 8:05 pm
by Singo17
moose wrote:SPRING PERCH !!!!!!!!

that looks like front mount/bush !!!!!!! :D :D :P :P



What you talkin about willis :finger: :D


DOH

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 8:26 pm
by beebee
The shackle at the rear is no more limiting than the front spring hanger. Maybe the bushes will allow for twist? I know mine do!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 8:28 pm
by beebee
The owner obviously found the longer shackle to be a problem re stability. It can't be any worse than a stock length shackle which would allow for little displacement.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 10:17 pm
by bubs
that guy now runs sua in his hilux

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 10:24 pm
by RUFF
That is ZUK from pirate i beleive and Bubs is right it is now Spring Under Axle in the rear.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 11:08 pm
by bubs
RUFF wrote:That is ZUK from pirate i beleive and Bubs is right it is now Spring Under Axle in the rear.


yeah i am pretty sure it is ZUK he posted some reasons for the SUA but i still dont know why you would want to though :?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 11:10 pm
by Singo17
RUFF wrote:That is ZUK from pirate i beleive and Bubs is right it is now Spring Under Axle in the rear.


I was looking at some SAS stuff in the nissan section and come across his link.

The shackle set up just interested me thought I would see what others thought without being able to just sit at the pub and jaw off about it.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 11:19 pm
by big red
be good with a swivel spring perch like troy suggested.