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I'm confused. Here in the Philippines we know them as the Feroza in 16 and 12 valve models. I owned a 93 EL

A relative in the states had a Daihatsu Rocky. On a trip to Tokyo I spotted what looked like a Feroza but was badged as a Toyota Mini Cruiser.

What confused me even more was one I spotted in Rome that sported a Bertone badge! It had an engine that looked similar (the head anyway) to my dad's old Alfa 1750 GTV and had quad H3 round headlamps.

What gives? Anyone know the history of this car? I would understand the Toyota-Daihatsu connection but Bertone??!


Boyd

The Bertone's have been talked about on here before. IIRC they had BMW made six cylinder diesel engines? The were some pics in that thread too.

I don't think the Toyota Mini Cruiser has been mentioned before though??

Here's that thread:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... ht=bertone

A bit more info here: http://www.bertone.it/en/storia_produzione_en.htm

Basically Bertone Freeclimber 1 was a Rocky with BMW petrol and diesel turbo engines; Freeclimber 2 was a Feroza with a BMW 1.6l engine.

Hmmm.... I wouldn't mind getting hold of that grille and headlight assy for something different!

6cyl BMW Diesel... Me LIKEY

It would be interesting to know what gearbox / transfer case / diffs they used (and what ratios ....)

WOah... them Lights on the Fez look really nice...

Yeh that 2.4l Turbo Diesel 6 cyl would get ours moving a bit more hey F70

Imagine how hard it would be to find information on either of them... I thought my Rocky was hard to get parts/info for. They only made a couple of thousand...

Reminds me of the old VW golf gti grills.

murcod wrote:The Bertone's have been talked about on here before. IIRC they had BMW made six cylinder diesel engines? The were some pics in that thread too.

I don't think the Toyota Mini Cruiser has been mentioned before though??

Well, a couple of hours ago, I just spotted another one on the road here in Manila. It was obviously another gray import (there have been a rash of so-called legally imported japanese SUVs here). It definitely had a Toyota badge and some wierd nickname.

boyd wrote:

murcod wrote:The Bertone's have been talked about on here before. IIRC they had BMW made six cylinder diesel engines? The were some pics in that thread too.

I don't think the Toyota Mini Cruiser has been mentioned before though??

Well, a couple of hours ago, I just spotted another one on the road here in Manila. It was obviously another gray import (there have been a rash of so-called legally imported japanese SUVs here). It definitely had a Toyota badge and some wierd nickname.

just saw it too in alabang-zapote road, infront of pure gold. its definitely not a mini land cruiser nor toyota blizard but it has the body of feroza but of different front grill with toyota emblem. a by-stander told me its imported from korea.
I'll try to get some pix of it if got another chance of seeing it.

Was it white with a fiberglass hardtop and oversize tires? Was it in a car lot for sale? There are lots of imports for sale on that road

Boyd

oliva1972 wrote:

boyd wrote:

murcod wrote:The Bertone's have been talked about on here before. IIRC they had BMW made six cylinder diesel engines? The were some pics in that thread too.

I don't think the Toyota Mini Cruiser has been mentioned before though??

Well, a couple of hours ago, I just spotted another one on the road here in Manila. It was obviously another gray import (there have been a rash of so-called legally imported japanese SUVs here). It definitely had a Toyota badge and some wierd nickname.

just saw it too in alabang-zapote road, infront of pure gold. its definitely not a mini land cruiser nor toyota blizard but it has the body of feroza but of different front grill with toyota emblem. a by-stander told me its imported from korea.
I'll try to get some pix of it if got another chance of seeing it.

Well, who's got pics?

finally, was able to spot again and here's the pix. is this the blizzard? or another evolution of Feroza.






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Looks very Rockyish to me (Aussie Rocky- not Feroza.) Turbo badge on the grille would tend to suggest the Rocky too -> 2.8l diesel turbo?

There is one of these down the Gold Coast, around Ashmore area. I saw it a couple of years ago. It was badged as a Toyota Blizzard. Check the rear number plate light holder. Also the PTO winch is exactly the same as mine, even down to the factory nudge bar. But the one I saw was a LWB. This one is a SWB.

I would like to get one of those toyota grills for my rocky

Looks like the 88(?) model Rocky, with the flat tin roofs. Grille just looks like a Bundera one, I wonder if they'd fit??

Chances are if you pull the Daihatsu off your grill, and get a Toyota from a 75 series cruiser, it could be made to fit.

Toyota blizzards in Australia were re-badged daihatsu f20's, so overseas looks like they just did the same with the f75 etc and called them blizzards.

Layto....

Just checked the bundera grill won't fit so looks like i will have to change the badge then.

How would you change the badge only I'll check in the morning but IIRC my 'badge' is not separate to the grille, its fused to it

I think mine has clips on the back of the grill but i will check tomorrow to be sure.

Well, I have a couple of spare grills off mid 80's F75's, and after checking, the Daihatsu badge is removable. 2 spring clips hold it to the grill.

I dont have Daihatsu written on mine I have the emblem and thats all... Hmmm a Yota one may fit there too or a ford one looks the same hahah

Yep my f75 has the tin clips too, will have to check some toyo badges and see if i can find one that will just clip on.