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need info for sd33t bellhousings

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 12:00 pm
by oiler
First of, Great site. A place I have always wanted to visit.

Now the problem, I have a scout with an sd33t and am trying to find some options for trannys. I have a four speed hooked to an SAE #4 bellhousing. What is in your trucks?? Picks please!! Is there a five speed that could go that engine?? Any gear ratio info??

I am also looking for info with your style of sd33t and the larger 4.2L engine. As I understand it, your engines had many updateds that we did not see here. Our last year for the engine was 1980.


Thank you for your time, :onfire: Oiler

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:42 pm
by ShortyMQ
The nissan MQ patrol came out factory with a 5-speed behind an sd33t, not sure on the ratios tho :?

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 6:11 pm
by V8Patrol
Two gearboxes were allicated to the MQ Patrol, the F4w81A ( 4 speed) or the FS5W81A (5 speed) ratios are as follows...
F4W81A
4th..........1.000:1
3rd..........1.449:1
2nd..........2.157:1
1st...........3.519:1
Reverse....4.181:1

FS5W81A
5th..........0.825:1
4th..........1.000:1
3rd..........1.440:1
2nd..........2.370:1
engine with turbo
1st..........3.897:1
Reverse...4.267:1
engine without turbo
1st..........4.222:1
reverse...4.622:1

Two transfers are also availiable, the T130A and the T100L
Ratios are......
T130A
High.........1.000:1
low...........2.220:1

T100L
high..........1000:1
low...........2.074:1

The T130A is installed on both the 4 & 5 spd boxes
The T100L is installed ONLY on the 4 spd boxes fitted to the "ute or canvas top" models.
hope this helps

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 6:49 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
The T100L case also came out in the LWB Patrols fitted with the L28 & 4 speed combination.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 7:58 pm
by V8Patrol
learn sumptin new every day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 8:55 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
Yeah this one had that combo.

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That's how I know, Doesn't have it now though :twisted:

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 9:25 pm
by V8Patrol
so what does she have now ?????

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:38 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
V8Patrol wrote:so what does she have now ?????


400 chev and a 5 speed :twisted: :cool:

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:55 pm
by V8Patrol
bout to update mine to a 350...... 308 died up near cobar 2 weeks ago :x

am looking fwd to the new plant !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:47 am
by oiler
That does help alot. How tuff are those five speeds and the t case to go with it?? Are lower gears offerd for the transfers? What bellhousing pattern is used? Is there a place to go and purches a used box in good condition?? :D :D


Thanks, oiler

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 11:31 am
by V8Patrol
Both the 4spd & the 5 spd are pretty tough boxes as are both transfers. Quite a few 4X4's have been repowered with much larger motors,IE: 350 chev, 400 chev, 351 ford (pos !) god I hate plords ! The drive train has handeld it well.
I have seen the earlier boxes (pre1980) fall apart under load from the stock motor, throttle abuse was a factor in that too !
As for lowergearing...... how low do you want to go, "rockcrawler" gears are readily availiable and are relativly simple to change. forget all about road speed tho !!!
Availibility of the 4 spd box is easy while the 5spd is somewhat hard to find but certainly not impossible, rebuilding either boxes is a fairly simple task for some-one that has a few mech skills, takes about a day from go to wo and the bearings cost around the $160.00 aud for the box and add around the $80.00 aud for the transfer bearings.
The biggest differance between the petrol motor and diesel motors is the location of the gearbox/transfer, in the diesel powered patrol the geagbox/transfer sits 3 inches further back than the petrol combination, the firewall is usually "massaged" to allow the fitting of say a V8 chev to a diesel unit with some addaptor kits while other kits compensate for this difference.
hope this helps

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 1:23 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
You can't get lower transfer case gears for the MQ/K patrols, unfortunately