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Italian land lover needs help

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:37 am
by Malarazza
Hello everibody,

First of all, thank God that australia is so full of land lovers :D

I'm from Milano Italy and I'm moving to Sydney to work, in September 06.

I'm a Defender 300 tdi proud owner and I will be interested to continuing my offroad expierence in your beautifoul contry(in the maximum respect of it)

I would like to know what I should expect from Sydney and if will be more expensive to send my car there instead of rent or buy one in Australia

Thanx to who will have the patience to give me some info.

Later...

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:52 am
by ISUZUROVER
Sydney will be a lot like Milan (e.g. LOTS of traffic) - except a lot more spread out, and with more cars but fewer scooters. Unfortunately with more expensive wine and not quite as good italian food.

Land Rovers are a lot cheaper 2nd hand in Australia compared to Italy (from what I have seen). 90s are not very common in Australia though, as they were only sold from 2002-2005 or something like that. So if you have/want a 90, it may be better to import.

Most other models are plentiful and not too expensive.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:09 am
by DiscoDino
Screw the trucks - which city has the hotter women :)

italian land rover

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:09 am
by 90pickup
Do not ship the car to Sydney! If possible go over Melbourne. My 110TD5 made the trip last year for a 2 month trip through VIC and SA. I heard lots of stories about having trouble clearing the car from the port in Sydney (and heavy bills!). I shipped mine from Basel (Switzerland) direct over Holland to Melbourne. They organised custom and quarantine in advance, so the Land rover was ready (except insurance!) to drive off at the shipping company headquarter in Mel.. Let me know, if you need more infos...And the australian diesel is compared to european, rubish, no need to open the bonnet after the first fill up!

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:11 am
by Maxtd5def
Might be worth doing some homework about getting your car registered here i.e. whether a RHD conversion is necessary.

I thought LHD was illegal, but have noticed the occasional yank tank lately wit LHD around Sydney.

Regards
Max P

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:41 am
by natanchris
Just to put in my two cents; I heard recently from a guy I know who restores cars that there is no longer any need to convert vehicles to RHD. As long as all the Roadworthy/ADR issues applicable have been addressed...

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:50 am
by Philip A
Don't give the guy a bum steer.
From the RTA site http//www.rta.nsw.gov.au

New South Wales legislation requires that:
• A motor vehicle with Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM) over 4.5 tonnes must have right-hand drive.
• A motor vehicle with a GVM not over 4.5 tonnes must have right-hand drive if the vehicle is:
- less than 30 years old.
- required by the law to have right-hand drive.
Under these requirements left-hand drive vehicles that are 30 years old or older and have a GVM not over
4.5 tonnes may be registered in left-hand drive configuration.

If you are here more than I think 6 months, then you must have RHD.
So it is probably not worth it. It will cost quite a bit to convert , although all of teh RHD components are readily available in Australia.
Regards Philip A

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:35 am
by Malarazza
Thanx gentlemans to reply me so fast ;)

I heard that the food is not too bad eheheh, anyway I can probably cook pasta eaven in a place were the water flush in the "wrong" side. :D

Ok i see that shipping the car over its too much complicate and expensive, I can buy a "very" used car there, and sell it when I will come back to italy that will be not less than 1/2 year...what du you think?can be rasoneable?

I dont think that I could economically support an "extreme" off roading attitude like I wuold and I dont know if I will have time to dedicate like in Italy, but I'm thinking about some old 109-110 eaven series, just to move everywere and make some easy trip in the outback(or come to watch your challenges)

Sorry for my bad english :oops:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:15 pm
by Loanrangie
If you are only staying for 6 months, jsut buya car here and sell it before you go.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:28 pm
by Malarazza
If everithing goes wrong, I will stay one year, not less...but hopefully 2.

where should I look to find good "pieces" on internet for your market? (just to have an idea)


thank you

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:30 pm
by Tiny
Malarazza wrote:If everithing goes wrong, I will stay one year, not less...but hopefully 2.

where should I look to find good "pieces" on internet for your market? (just to have an idea)


thank you
for second hand cars

www.tradingpost.com.au
www.carpoint.com.au

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:46 pm
by Malarazza
yesss :D

I found some lovely ones, a few series II e III from 2000 to 3000 AUD

How much does it cost in tax, insurance and permssions to mantein a car like that


thank you again

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:52 pm
by Tiny
Malarazza wrote:yesss :D

I found some lovely ones, a few series II e III from 2000 to 3000 AUD

How much does it cost in tax and permssions to mantein a car like that


thank you again
rego and green slip (compulsary 3rd part injury) around $1000.00

basic third party property depends on age, email someone like www.aami.com.au for a quote

PM me if you want any more details etc.

Plenty of good tracks near sydney, when you get here I am sure plenty of people will be happy to go for a drive with you

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:13 pm
by Malarazza
You are very kind

I will be honored to have a drive with some outback expert, your country looks a paradise for off roading

Obviously I dont expect to do with a series II the same off road that my D90 does, but in this way I can keep it at home for a trip in Africa on the first of the year 2007 as I will go back to Italy for the holidays

now I have to see wich legal restriction I may be have, to buy cars as I am a foreign

you mean 1.000 AUD for 1 year for everithing?

PS: ehm...what is "green slip"?

Thanx for all ;)

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:33 pm
by Tiny
Malarazza wrote:You are very kind

I will be honored to have a drive with some outback expert, your country looks a paradise for off roading

Obviously I dont expect to do with a series II the same off road that my D90 does, but in this way I can keep it at home for a trip in Africa on the first of the year 2007 as I will go back to Italy for the holidays

now I have to see wich legal restriction I may be have, to buy cars as I am a foreign

you mean 1.000 AUD for 1 year for everithing?

PS: ehm...what is "green slip"?

Thanx for all ;)
for the car yes, about $400 for registration and the the rest is green slip and pink slip.

pink slip is the vehicle safety check by a licenced mechanic. the green slip is 3rd party injury cover or insurence to cover medical costs of any person injured as a result of you causing and accident.

there is a lot of different types of terrain here from rock to mud holes to sand and dessert etc, so yes provided the governmment has not shut it off there is lots of good areas to drive here in aus

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:32 pm
by Philip A
You can get an early Disco V8 for about $5000 now. That would be much better than a Series as the distances to 4WD legal sites from Sydney are usually 2 hours plus on the expressways. Series 2-3 in Australia are really not practical road cars as you will be the slowest car on the road, and there are many big hills on the roads around Sydney.

Petrol in Australia is very cheap compared to Europe at about $1.10-1.30 per litre. So live it up while in OZ.
Regards Philip A

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:16 am
by Malarazza
Hi everiboby

I was looking at your land gallery, and I see very beautifoul cars...

I saw that many people in Aus fit those rims....

Image

Can somebody give me all the informations about (size...off set...price)

They are not popular in Italy and it would be nice to fit them on my D90

thanx

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:26 am
by TRobbo
The rims can be purchased for around $95Au each for a 15 X 8 rim, and are available from a variety of suppliers. They are available in both 15 and 16 inch sizes with a variety of widths.
The offset is also right for fitting the larger tyre to a rover without using wheel spacers. :)
The tyre in the pic looks like it would be a 35 X 10.5 or 35 X 11.5.