Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Ok I went down to Nissan and sourced some new lock nuts and bolts for the mav. I'm talking about the types which are used on safari free wheeling hubs which look like this.



The reason for upgrading is because the old ones looked like this.



The problem that I now have is that this collar thing (called a bush in the gregorys manual is now in the way because the new nut and washer have a slightly larger diameter so won't go inside this collar like the old nuts easily did.



So I thought no worries I'll pop the collar out again and put the new nut in, adjust it, put the lock washer and bolts in and then knock the collar back in over the top. Only problem is that if I do this I can't see how to get it all off again later if need be. Is there a different size collar I need or something?

Hope all this makes sense.

The nuts and lock washer you have in your hand is nothing special - they all look like that after being adjusted with a coldchisel or big screw driver. Why didn't you just by more of them and the proper socket thingy to tighten them, or even better, just flatten out the lock washer and reuse it for the 25th time like everybody I know does.

Because they are crap and don't lock properly due to the design of them. The newer design I have is much better and if I can get around this problem there is no way they can become loose or overtightened like the old ones do. I have reused the washer a couple of times and I think its just plain dodgy.

fair enough
I suppose the part that counts is "if you get it to fit"
If you can figure it out, Im sure they will be a popular part no. at the nissan parts counter.

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Seems there are plenty of others who have done it and recommend it so I must be missing something plainly obvious, Someone who has done this must be able to help me out. I need my truck back on the road ASAP.

Easy just pop the {collor aka bush} off with longnose pliers.

Screw the new nut up to the bearing tight.

Than spin the hub ten or sotimes left and right.
Than back off the nut to whatever load you want on the bearing.

Slide lock washer on than do up the two screws tight as possable.

Place bush on before free wheeling clutch gear .

Piss easy system.

Good luck Steve.

Ok cool that was the plan but couldn't get the collar off that easily before with pliers and didn't want to be stuck in a situation where I can't lever the collar off. Everything is pretty greasy though I'll give it another shot after I clean it up a bit more. Thanks.

I had no probs with the collar when I did mine, it pulled out pretty easily. I didnt have any dramas so I must have just put it back in after the adjuster/lock nuts.

The new syatem is at least 11tybillion times better than the shonky old design too!

Yeah all sorted now, was just stuck in there thats all. This system is way better and I've made myself a sweet little tool for the job too. If you haven't done this yet, do it! Its worth the $45 in parts.

My 96 GQ diesel has the same design from standard, it's a bit coarse compared to the lock tab, but close enough for dealer servicing I guess and they will get more work out of it as the bearings will loosen up faster than if adjusted by feel perfectly.
Unless lucky they will end up either slightly to tight or slightly too loose.
I was all ready with my big MQ bearing bolt remover and all I needed was a philips head .

cheers fnq

Yeah I know what you mean, you can't get the same precision as with the old style nuts. I'm thinking that slightly (very slightly) tighter would be better than looser as they will loosen up a bit over time. Would that be a fair assumption?

For me anyway with no better choice I would go to the slightly looser setting on used good condition bearings but choose the slightly too tight option on new ones.
It's a pita regardless, stuff like this makes me mistrust any form of engineering these days.

cheers fnq