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gq clunk
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:08 pm
by Shy Industries
Someone maybe able to shed some light for me.
After a weekend of wheeling i have now developed a clunk in the front end as i turn left then when i turn back to the right it clunks again as if something is shifting from side to side. I had a sticky couldn't see anything wrong, so would appreciate any ideas on what i may have over looked.
Thanks.
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:22 pm
by matthewK
could be a number of things , steering box, swivel hubs, cv's,bent steering rods or the relay rod,
need a bit more info
like dose it do it while the hubs are locked or unlocked?
is more on the left side middle or right side?
just a bit more info i gues will help
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:15 pm
by ozy1
a rought guess woulod be panhard, either bushes, or if you have an adjustable item, maybe the lick nut is loose, but there can be alot of areas it might be coming from,
do you have an aftermarket steering wheel and boos kit?
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:07 pm
by xenith
ozy1 said a rought guess woulod be panhard, either bushes, or if you have an adjustable item, maybe the lick nut is loose, but there can be alot of areas it might be coming from, my guess is same panhard rod
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:18 pm
by ozy1
the reason i also said the aftermarket steering wheel with boss kits, is becasue i have had 2 name brand boss kits in the past 12 months where the copper horn ring has detached fromt he rear causing a clunk in the steering,
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:19 pm
by Shy Industries
i have the OE steering wheel and boss, the clunks is definately on the left side and the clunk occurs both when the hubs are locked or unlocked and in high or low range
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:38 pm
by GQ again
i have a clunk beolow the floor when i turn the steering wheel can anyone shed some light on this fault.
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:50 pm
by matthewK
ozy1 wrote:a rought guess woulod be panhard, either bushes, or if you have an adjustable item, maybe the lick nut is loose, but there can be alot of areas it might be coming from,
do you have an aftermarket steering wheel and boos kit?
when my panhard went ,it didnt make any noise when i turned the wheels left to right , when i started to accelerate up at a cedertain speed the whole front end shuddered so bad i thought the wheels were falling off
thats how i knew it was my panhard
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:22 am
by patrolpaul
Check your Body mount. It has a bit or rubber around where it fits into the chasis. They have been known to wear out and start clunking. They did on mine after a trip offroad. The other thing it could be is the floor pan where it meets the fire wall, Patrol's sometimes seperate there if used offroad.
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:58 pm
by GQ again
patrolpaul wrote:Check your Body mount. It has a bit or rubber around where it fits into the chasis. They have been known to wear out and start clunking. They did on mine after a trip offroad. The other thing it could be is the floor pan where it meets the fire wall, Patrol's sometimes seperate there if used offroad.
i also have a shutter in the drive train when i am cruising between 90k and 100k could this be my auto trans or tailshaft i have been told to check both
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:12 pm
by patrolpaul
What hight suspension do you have? LWB or SWB?
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:44 pm
by matthewK
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:23 pm
by patrolpaul
Totally agree with mathewK. It is an easy fix.
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:49 pm
by GQ again
matthewK wrote:GQ again wrote:patrolpaul wrote:Check your Body mount. It has a bit or rubber around where it fits into the chasis. They have been known to wear out and start clunking. They did on mine after a trip offroad. The other thing it could be is the floor pan where it meets the fire wall, Patrol's sometimes seperate there if used offroad.
i also have a shutter in the drive train when i am cruising between 90k and 100k could this be my auto trans or tailshaft i have been told to check both
it common in the LWB with large lift kits to get shudder/viration in the gear box its as simple to lower the whole gear box 1inch ,
i know this because a mate of my old mans in sydney had a 6inch lift put in by TJM they lowered the gear box 1 inch to stop vibrations in it
dose that make any sences to ya?>
so you think the shutter will go away if i lower the auto trans 1 inch or does it have to be lowered to suit my lift kit. also what do i do to lower the trans can youtell me
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:06 pm
by patrolpaul
You can make or buy spacer blocks that fit between the chasis and transmission cross member. Has to how much it would depend on how much lift you have.
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:15 am
by bogged
matthewK wrote: it common in the LWB with large lift kits to get shudder/viration in the gear box its as simple to lower the whole gear box 1inch
funny, only ever heard of that with shortys.
i know this because a mate of my old mans in sydney had a 6inch lift put in by TJM they lowered the gear box 1 inch to stop vibrations in it
dose that make any sences to ya?>
is this the same old man with a 6+in lift and no longer brake lines?
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:23 am
by patrolpaul
Bogged, I did to till I lifted mine and got a vibration.
After I fitted the spacer it was gone.
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:52 am
by GQ again
patrolpaul wrote:Bogged, I did to till I lifted mine and got a vibration.
After I fitted the spacer it was gone.
did you have vibration all the time or just at certain speeds paul before u lifted it
and where the best place to get spacer blocks --- arb or tjm or somewhere else
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:29 am
by BowTieGQ
I spent ages trying to find my clunk. It ended up being the springs moving on the diff, hence when turning and/or during articulation. I had an old pair of VT spring insulators laying around, cut the hole in centre bigger and clunk all gone. Gained 10mm lift too!
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:09 pm
by matthewK
bogged wrote:matthewK wrote: it common in the LWB with large lift kits to get shudder/viration in the gear box its as simple to lower the whole gear box 1inch
funny, only ever heard of that with shortys.
i know this because a mate of my old mans in sydney had a 6inch lift put in by TJM they lowered the gear box 1 inch to stop vibrations in it
dose that make any sences to ya?>
is this the same old man with a 6+in lift and no longer brake lines?
yeah the same guy only reason i think he didnt touch the brake lines and other things hehehe funny i forgot to mention that he had an 8inch lift in it befor he went to 6 inch , and i was told they lowered his gear box 1 inch to stop vibrations in his 1990+ LWB patrol
no wonder i looked the idiot on yahoo when i only had half the story so my apologys to you bogged and to other who was on there
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:15 pm
by turps
Maybes
Check rubber spring pads. Coil can move in the seat. Clark rubber may have some rubber sheet that you can make new ones out off.
Tie-rod - I bent this (steering arm that goes from passenger side rear of swival hub to the drivers side- ie makes drivers side turn). Bent it on a smallish rock. Then when turning or suspension was cycling, it would hit the sump (Morks thats what caused the dint). Fix get a new one or straighten the old.
Panhard bushes- Usually causes a virbration in the front end (mine was bad under brakes). Dont usually notice it while turning as it will have a constant sideways load.
TieRodEnds (TRE)- Dunno never killed one.
Steering box may have slack in it. But I would think that while it has load on it, it would be fine. And it would have teh clunk in both directions.
Body mounts- Hell we give them shit off-road. They wear out theres dodgy fixes, JUst buy new ones there good for a couple of hundred thousand k's. They tend to make more of a clunk when wet. Can notice it thru the floor. Also they may not be worn. May have broken a bolt or be loose. Stick the rattle gun on the bugger.
Body sometimes cracks at the bottom of the firewall. And can make a clunking sounds.