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Changing transfer case oil..where do i get the pump from

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:02 am
by beefa125
Hi Guys

I have a 2000 model hilux and am changing the gearbox and transfer case oil this weekend,

Now the problem is not draining but filling the bloody things, anyone know where you can get those pumps to fill them, the one with a tube on the end ? I have tried Repco and Auto One and they dont have em

If anyone has any other suggestions that would be great

Cheers

Heath

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:07 am
by BundyRumandCoke
Go to a vet, and get the biggest syringe you can and add a bit of hose. A bit slow, but works, and keeps things pretty clean.

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:09 am
by V6XtraHilux
Ive a 2003 model and i use the plastic siphon type pump from repco, about 10 bucks worth, it has the vertical plastic tube u stick in the oil bottle, a red squeeze section with air pressure bleed on top, and a horizontal plastic tube with a bit of flex at the red bit. Stick the vertical bit in the bottle, squeeze the red section and away u go.

would be easier to visualize with a pic but I aint got one :cool:

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:48 am
by bad_religion_au
i use an old squeezy sauce bottle :D

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:18 am
by beefa125
Anyone have a pic of the removal and drain holes or can anyone describe to me where they are ?

Cheers

Heath

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:23 pm
by HJ60_HEATHUS
supercheap sell hand pumps that will screw onto most 20 litre drums. I've got one and it's handy, but only if you buy 20 litres of gear oil.

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:05 pm
by Tiny
redneck solution :D :D :D :D

get some garden hose (one metre will do) 1" is best.

Drill a hole in the top of the lid slightly smaller then the hose

Poke the hose into the lid with enough hose to almost touch the bottom of the oil container.

check the hose will fit into the oil filler hole and if it doesnet trip the hose with a ve and tape so it is a funnel shape at the end.

screw the lid onto the oil container

make a very small home on the opposite end to the lid so you can poke the air brush attachment from the compressor into the container.

SLOWLY repeat SLOWLY squeeze the air bruch trigger and the air pressure will force the oil into the hose and up into transmission, diff etc.

Basicaaly same principal as an aerosol can, but beware if you put to much pressure in the container it will explode.

Rob watched me do it once and tried it when I wasnt around only to get the entire wareehouse floor covered in crap.

If you are serious get some gal pipe with threaded ends and pipe caps, a tyre valve and a hose with a tap on the end and make a permanant one

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:21 pm
by Stew77
Supercheap sell Groz brand hand pumps like a huge syringe
Good quality about $30 from memory. Works a treat.

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:13 pm
by Draven
I got a drill powered pump from Bunnings....HEAPS faster than doing it manually. They are about $30 from memory.. But awesome piece of kit, i use it for all diff and gearbox oils...saves heaps of time and is pretty clean.

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:43 pm
by Slunnie
I bought mine from Hare and Forbes, though some bottles already have a funnel on them. They may be a bit small for a t/f though.

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:15 pm
by fnqcairns
I get a length of garden hose stick one end in the hole the other end I gaffer tape a big funnel then stand leaning against the car pouring the oil into the funnel, it's not real slow either around a L every couple of minutes.

cheers fnq

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:44 pm
by whiteknight
Autobarn sell all types of pumps that would suit.

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:41 am
by Utemad
Draven wrote:I got a drill powered pump from Bunnings....HEAPS faster than doing it manually. They are about $30 from memory.. But awesome piece of kit, i use it for all diff and gearbox oils...saves heaps of time and is pretty clean.
I bought one of these from Chicken Feed in Tassie (Burnie?) when I was down there. Cost me about $3 although I haven't tried it yet. It's only been 13 months :)

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:09 pm
by rOd
Draven wrote:I got a drill powered pump from Bunnings....HEAPS faster than doing it manually. They are about $30 from memory.. But awesome piece of kit, i use it for all diff and gearbox oils...saves heaps of time and is pretty clean.
Ive seen those aswell at Bunnings but I wasnt sure it can pump gear oil.

I think I will buy one and try it. Its got to be better than a squeeze bottle. :?

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:29 pm
by -Scott-
I got stuck and needed something in a hurry. I found a Masport lawnmower service kit which contained (among other things) a nice 300ml syringe, which now lives in the Paj spare parts crate.

Slow, but functional.

Scott

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:31 pm
by Beastmavster
You can buy a mini hand pump that holds a litre at a time. Mine is a tom thumb brand. not great cos it takes a while to pump in but better than nothing.


A drill operated pump and some hose would probably be better...

Pump

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:36 am
by Grasshopper
Get a garden sprayer,remove the spray handle and restrictor in the hose.Fill with appropriate amount of oil.Put end of hose in gearbox or transfer case .Pump pressure into the bottle with the pump and the oil flows in by itself.No hard work just kick back with a coldie and watch it all happen.
Dave

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:40 am
by beefa125
Guys I got a pump thing and makes the job so easy..

Only thing is when I changed the front diff oil i found crown teeth in it !!!!!!!!!bummer !!!!!!!!!!!!11

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:28 pm
by V6XtraHilux
Welcome to the "Unbreakable Hilux" Club........broken crown wheel teeth and mb $1500 later u will have a factory issue Hilux, for an extra $2500 you can get new crown wheel and ARB air locker, and shouldnt, read hopefully, wont have a problem with breaking front crown wheels


lots of people have ur problem.........my next 4by will be a Nissan live axle!

Karl

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:59 pm
by beefa125
So how many teeth can I loose and still be safe to drive around ?

Cheers

Heath

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:10 pm
by jeep97tj
With hubs out u could loose all of them and not have a prob. If u want to drive around with the hubs in I would say 1/6th of 2 or 3 teeth may be ok for a while.

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:37 pm
by beefa125
THE REASON I ASK IS THAT IM GOING AWAY ON A TRIP IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND DONT WANNA HAVE THE THING BLOW ON ME...

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:40 am
by V6XtraHilux
i knocked off perhaps 3-4 teeth from my crown wheel, when? I have no idea, but I think it had happened about 50,000kms BEFORE I found them!! OR it might have been less than 5,000kms, cant be completely certain.

From what I can gather from previous posts and my own experience, 95% of the crown wheel problems arise from either reversing harshly in 4wd while on high traction surfaces OR while one wheel spins in the air (go the IFS!) and then coming down hard and gripping........so if you can keep both of those situations to a minimum, you should be OK, but I aint no mechanic or a Toyota representative, so you need to make up your own mind. You will be battling to get the repairs under warranty at any rate.

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:41 pm
by mattc
I just bought a bunnings drill attach pump for $22 and $2 for a metre of clear plastic hose on the weekend. Used it last night and tonight to do the gearbox and transfer oil changes. Worked fine. Only other comment is my cordless drill could not drive it hard enough to maintain a flow. Regular power drill worked a treat.

cheers
MattC