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Will I break...
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:00 am
by N*A*M
...if I run 34x10.5 Simex JT2s on stock wide track axles?
Points to note:
- I am a Victorian (and proudly so). But we don't have many rocks here.
- I have a standard 1300cc.
- I will have Rockhopper 3 but standard R&P.
- Open front, locked rear.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:08 am
by MY45
even though you wont be rock crawling with the added forces of the bigger tyres and locker, i think you may be asking for $hit to happen
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:20 am
by grimbo
You should be ok. Myself and greg are running 34 swampers with front and rear locked with Series 3 Rockhoppers and haven't broken anything on our Stock suzuki diffs/axles yet. I have been running 34s for about 3 years now with at various stages locked rear no rockhopper, locked rear series 1 rockhopper and the current setup. it comes down to driving style, just don't keep the boot in and you should be ok.
if you were to be driving on high grip rocks only you may find trouble but Vic conditions you should be ok
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:46 am
by camskizook
All comes down to driving style dude.....if u r one of those guys that charges at stuff or sits on a rock step or in a hole just spinning your wheels you will break stuff for sure
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:50 am
by bubs
i voted kaBOOM - get some lux axles
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:52 am
by greg
There's a guy in the Suzuki Club with this exact size - front and rear welded diffs - and he hasn't broken anything (though he did roll his car recently
)
Quit worrying about it and go get them dude.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:56 am
by N*A*M
why would i want puny hilux axles when i have VOLVOs?
yeah i called the dude but he's not home greg
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:34 am
by stu
treat rough enough and it'll snap!!
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:41 am
by greg
N*A*M wrote:yeah i called the dude but he's not home greg
Redial
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:37 pm
by Shorty40
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 4:36 pm
by 12uke
See how it goes with enough right boot anything will break.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:14 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
She'll be right I ran 35/12.5/15 mtr's and welded rear and drove the old girl pretty hard and only broke one rear axle and that was with a swift tied to the back like a tow truck.
SAM
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:10 am
by Megaman
Nam,
Invest in a spare set of widetracks if you can find them.
Oh did I mention I have a set for sale still
I'll swap you for a set of volvos.
Just drive it with the 34's and deal with it if you break something.
BTW where are the pics
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 8:52 am
by Wendle
overkill wrote:only broke one rear axle and that was with a swift tied to the back like a tow truck.
SAM
In your own driveway ROFL
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:42 pm
by N*A*M
so... am i dreaming?
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:43 pm
by N*A*M
yep definitely a dreamer
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:44 pm
by N*A*M
how the fark are these gonna fit?
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:45 pm
by moose
just do it !!!!
youve seen the way I drive !!
& I aint broke anythink yet !!!!
(touch wood !!!
)
drive it to your limits & then if its not enuff , try some more !!!
then upgrade if need be !!!!
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:46 pm
by N*A*M
Megaman wrote:Invest in a spare set of widetracks if you can find them. Oh did I mention I have a set for sale still
I'll swap you for a set of volvos.
Michael you old opportunist!
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 3:13 pm
by Guy
Having run 33 swampers rear locker workd 1.6 and 4.16 T/case have eaten lots of bearings, brakes etc but haven't busted an axle yet .. and I am not easy on the throttle ... if its stuck keep the boot in .. maybe it will drive out
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 10:27 am
by ljxtreem
i run 36'x 12.5 swampers on stock wide trax, front and rear locked. Never broken an axel, i have broken 2 CV's, but ita a rare event, and i think birfield rings would sole that. drive the J/T's with respect and it should be apples
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 10:42 am
by WaveCult
Yeah, I believe you should be right, but hey, if it breaks, don't sue any of us that voted that "she'll be right"
I just wonder what sort of impact it'll have on the clutch though...
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 2:08 pm
by redzook
ljxtreem wrote:i run 36'x 12.5 swampers on stock wide trax, front and rear locked. Never broken an axel, i have broken 2 CV's, but ita a rare event, and i think birfield rings would sole that. drive the J/T's with respect and it should be apples
what sort of gearing do u have?
how many trips have u had the 36's on for?
btw N*A*M what made u pick the jt2's?
i think it should be cool
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 2:39 pm
by N*A*M
the jt2s were cheap... impulse buy.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 6:13 pm
by Megaman
Nam,
I see some serious grinder action in your not too distant future.
Just fit em and cut the bits off that they hit.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 9:49 pm
by mud4b
imo youve got the buggers there so fit em up...........................
and give us some pics.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 1:01 pm
by greg
redzook wrote:ljxtreem wrote:i run 36'x 12.5 swampers on stock wide trax, front and rear locked. Never broken an axel, i have broken 2 CV's, but ita a rare event, and i think birfield rings would sole that. drive the J/T's with respect and it should be apples
what sort of gearing do u have?
how many trips have u had the 36's on for?
The LWB LJ has a 1L Sierra x-fer case behind a Vitara case - both with stock gears (my sierra has more gears that Mock does
)
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:32 pm
by Guy
having seen the last one bust , it was a full charge in low low floor it .. I doubt a hilux CV would have held up either (as I have seen these bust as well in very similar situations) crossed up in a rut full stuff on passanger side front wheel at an angle (big bit of large swamper against the scrub bar) and hammer the throttle .. bang .. get towed out by a Kia
(far worse than a busted CV
)
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:36 pm
by greg
love_mud wrote:having seen the last one bust , it was a full charge in low low floor it .. I doubt a hilux CV would have held up either (as I have seen these bust as well in very similar situations) crossed up in a rut full stuff on passanger side front wheel at an angle (big bit of large swamper against the scrub bar) and hammer the throttle .. bang .. get towed out by a Kia
(far worse than a busted CV
)
The other CV happened on Adventure Tour while trying to reverse up The Steps in Toolangi with a front swamper rolled off the inner bead...
Both were fairly "extreem" situations though really.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 4:40 pm
by Dozoor
Nam the rear axles can handle the setup with a human behind the throttle,
so you'll be right . The c/vs on the other hand can be a bit of a disapointment but ,Ha you need the experience changing them hehe
Ive run 35s silvs on and of for four years, This zook two c/vs
two rear centres , one set of splines off my front spool.
Series 1 , 5.1 centres,open rear ,spooled front.
Larry.