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manual locking hubs on full time 4wd?
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:45 am
by mud4b
just wanting to know if hilux (solid axle) manual locking hubs will fit onto my 92 sahara (factory lockers) hubs to replace the non locking type ?..
i do have the part time conversion but just have no 80 series manual locking hubs.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:48 am
by Tiny
I have being told yes, but I haven't done it myself so I would be double checking
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:34 am
by 80UTE
The solid axle hilux FWH will go straight on. Im 100% sure.
Wally
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:38 pm
by Tiny
80UTE wrote:The solid axle hilux FWH will go straight on. Im 100% sure.
Wally
well if say so wally, then go for it
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:18 pm
by Trusa
Looking to put free wheeling hubs on my 80 also. Have been searching and only found accounts of people putting hilux free wheel hubs on.
Any reason for these over the 80 series part time hubs?
Or just what people had access to?
Cheers,
Ben
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:06 pm
by JOHNZ
80UTE wrote:The solid axle hilux FWH will go straight on. Im 100% sure.
Wally
I agree with wally hilux & cruiser hubs are the same
cheers Johnz
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:20 pm
by beanz2
Aren't full time CV's after 1995 longer than part time? Would Hilux hubs fit over the longer ones? Just curious.
Dave
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:22 pm
by Tiny
the marks kit is around the $550 retail for everything you need, must check it out further, was not aware of any CV differences though
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:39 pm
by mud4b
will be doing the marks kit sometime this week.. ill let you know how i went.
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:05 pm
by [WANAPLAY]
I just on the weekend put a part time kit in my 80. I went with the 4wd Systems one outta adelaide and for $500 i got all the gear including front manual locking hubs.
Bit of an interesting tour thru the transfer case as your pulling it all apart but it works well!
I wasnt aware of any CV differences and the kit I got fits all 80 cruisers?? But there might be???
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:08 pm
by Trusa
According to the wrecker I bought my hubs from there are two different length cv's and they changed in either 94 or 95 (I will find out when I try to put free wheel hubs on my 94). Apparently the longer ones are required for free wheeling hubs, although this is heresay and I'll find out tomorrow!!
Will also ring Marks tomorrow, but due to a jammed centre diff lock and a need for 4 wheel drive I needed a quick fix for now. Does anyone know if Marks kit includes the centre diff lock switch or do you have to fork out the $100 odd from Toyota?
Ben
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:10 pm
by Trusa
Just re-read the Marks page, it doesn't include the switch.
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:17 pm
by crankycruiser
I put hilux FWH on my 93 model 80 series. .they fitted no worries...
They did change the length of the cv's at some stage i would say it was the 95 onwards ones...
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:05 pm
by jimbo jones
Tiny wrote:the marks kit is around the $550 retail for everything you need, must check it out further, was not aware of any CV differences though
I just bought a part time kit for my truck retail was $595. + freight
80
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:13 pm
by jimbo jones
Trusa wrote:According to the wrecker I bought my hubs from there are two different length cv's and they changed in either 94 or 95 (I will find out when I try to put free wheel hubs on my 94). Apparently the longer ones are required for free wheeling hubs, although this is heresay and I'll find out tomorrow!!
Will also ring Marks tomorrow, but due to a jammed centre diff lock and a need for 4 wheel drive I needed a quick fix for now. Does anyone know if Marks kit includes the centre diff lock switch or do you have to fork out the $100 odd from Toyota?
Ben
you don't need any extra switch's it all works the same except you lock your hubs in now when you press the factory HI 4 button it will actervate the front diff then just pull down on the stick for low 4
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:56 am
by 80UTE
beanz2 wrote:Aren't full time CV's after 1995 longer than part time? Would Hilux hubs fit over the longer ones? Just curious.
Dave
Sure was the full time 4WD 95 update got the longer C/V's if used with FWH they stick out the end too far and rub on the aliminium select dail of the ASIN type factory FWH. All factory partime 80 used the shorter C/V like the early 80 . Part time 100's and 78/79 also use the same early 80 short C/V also.
Wally
least its not a pootrol
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:18 pm
by zook chick
since when r u a cruiser dude?
your a suzuki kid, hence suziworx
atleast u didnt go to the dark side totally
Re: 80
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:29 pm
by jimbo jones
jimbo jones wrote:Trusa wrote:According to the wrecker I bought my hubs from there are two different length cv's and they changed in either 94 or 95 (I will find out when I try to put free wheel hubs on my 94). Apparently the longer ones are required for free wheeling hubs, although this is heresay and I'll find out tomorrow!!
Will also ring Marks tomorrow, but due to a jammed centre diff lock and a need for 4 wheel drive I needed a quick fix for now. Does anyone know if Marks kit includes the centre diff lock switch or do you have to fork out the $100 odd from Toyota?
Ben
you don't need any extra switch's it all works the same except you lock your hubs in now when you press the factory HI 4 button it will actervate the front diff then just pull down on the stick for low 4
sorry you do need to buy the switch only if its a sahra.
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:58 pm
by beanz2
80UTE wrote:beanz2 wrote:Aren't full time CV's after 1995 longer than part time? Would Hilux hubs fit over the longer ones? Just curious.
Dave
Sure was the full time 4WD 95 update got the longer C/V's if used with FWH they stick out the end too far and rub on the aliminium select dail of the ASIN type factory FWH. All factory partime 80 used the shorter C/V like the early 80 . Part time 100's and 78/79 also use the same early 80 short C/V also.
Wally
Thanks, Wally, I had thought that was the case. So the reason part time kits supply the locking hubs was because the FWH off a Hilux wouldn't work on the 95+ CVs. It's all coming together now
Dave
Re: manual locking hubs on full time 4wd?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:48 pm
by mick shrek
mud4b wrote:just wanting to know if hilux (solid axle) manual locking hubs will fit onto my 92 sahara (factory lockers) hubs to replace the non locking type ?..
i do have the part time conversion but just have no 80 series manual locking hubs.
Re: manual locking hubs on full time 4wd?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:57 pm
by mick shrek
mick shrek wrote:mud4b wrote:just wanting to know if hilux (solid axle) manual locking hubs will fit onto my 92 sahara (factory lockers) hubs to replace the non locking type ?..
i do have the part time conversion but just have no 80 series manual locking hubs.
yes thay fit. and work well you see mine all the time
lisa bottle shop i have 2" wheel space if you would like to lend them
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:39 pm
by Mad Cruiser
mud4b
Where are you up to with this ?
Re: least its not a pootrol
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:03 pm
by mud4b
zook chick wrote:since when r u a cruiser dude?
your a suzuki kid, hence suziworx
atleast u didnt go to the dark side totally
yes i now have a cruiser...
i always wanted a 80, but never thought i could afford one..
it is my new tourer/ tow rig.
Re: manual locking hubs on full time 4wd?
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:04 pm
by mud4b
mick shrek wrote:mick shrek wrote:mud4b wrote:just wanting to know if hilux (solid axle) manual locking hubs will fit onto my 92 sahara (factory lockers) hubs to replace the non locking type ?..
i do have the part time conversion but just have no 80 series manual locking hubs.
yes thay fit. and work well you see mine all the time
lisa bottle shop i have 2" wheel space if you would like to lend them
good stuff..
ill let you know about the spacers.. someone on here must want to sell theirs..
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:06 pm
by mud4b
Mad Cruiser wrote:mud4b
Where are you up to with this ?
sorry dude... have not driven it for a week now... something has let go in the gearbox..
so when work dies a little bit ill bring it in and pull the lot..
ill chuck the kit in then.hoping to do it next week or the weekend.
Free wheeling hubs
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:50 pm
by Benszook
The 4wd systems kit is $499 plus freight comes with free wheeling hubs and spacers if your car is 94 on. Comes with better instructions thank Marks and is just as good a product.
Ben
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:13 am
by Trusa
Marks kit arrived today, $405 delivered without free wheeling hubs, saved $40 buy hubs from wreckers!! Will put it in over the weekend, just need to get the diff lock switch.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:03 pm
by mud4b
ok after the 80 box fell on my head (and knocked me out for a hour) the part time conversion is done and gearbox fixed.
ive taken a series of pics through the swap ,so is it worth writing a report on how to do this... im keen to do it after the weekend if it needs doing.
ps... part time makes the cruiser a CRUISER... its so smooth to drivve now.. no catching up from diff to diff... ill let you know how the fuel econemy goes after lmp this weekend..
cheers
mark
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:06 pm
by mud4b
just in case anyone is trying to find a spigot bearing to suit a 1hdt engine and doesnt want the run around like i got (still new to toyota) they are the same for a 1hz engine. but different to the newer turbo diesels.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:15 pm
by mud4b
just got the cruiser back in the workshop to do the front hubs..
but they dont fit.. its running sahara diffs so i guess its the 95 onward type...
all that is wrong is the circlip sits about 5mm off the hub face. on the non locking hub when you pull the grease cap off you will see the 5mm spacer(it is part of the hub). ive checked the manuel locking hub will clear the cv and it does..
so on tuesday ive got some 32mm dom tube that is a perfect fit over the cv, im going to machine a 5mm spacer from that for each side...
ill keep you updated.