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Coil or leaf????
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:47 pm
by TinyGQ
Hi i own a GQ but im thinkin of getting rid of it and getting a zook, (too much money tied into the GQ wanna get a cheap bush pig!)
I have seen a few that have been modded and not modded coil and leaf but havent the faintest idea what i should get.
What i wanna know is people's opinions on the coil sprung sierra verses the leaf sprung.
Im keen to get it pretty high and do all the usuall mods if theyre not done but i dont want it to turn into a money pit!
Any advice would be great!!
TinyGQ
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:51 pm
by "CANADA"
leaf for sure
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:53 pm
by TinyGQ
oh really?? why is that, only for the cost benefit? It seems pretty easy to lift leaf if ya go for the SPOA which it seems most ppl do??
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:00 pm
by "CANADA"
what size tires would you be planning on running...
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:01 pm
by TinyGQ
i run 35's on my GQ but im not sure how the 1.3 will take decent sized rubber? id like to get it up to 35's but at least 33's.
What do the little motors go spining the rubber, does the crawler gears help it at all??
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:02 pm
by sierrajim
Im keen to get it pretty high
May i ask why?
Leaves will be cheaper to do than coils as you are modifying the equipment already there. Coils means fabricating a completely new suspension system. which inturn costs more.
The best way is to work out what size tyres you want to run and build the car around that.
Maybe post up some info on what type of terrain you want to drive, weather its a daily driver as well, what your budget is etc etc and work from there.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:07 pm
by "CANADA"
TinyGQ wrote:i run 35's on my GQ but im not sure how the 1.3 will take decent sized rubber? id like to get it up to 35's but at least 33's.
What do the little motors go spining the rubber, does the crawler gears help it at all??
with gears it will do fine...
with anything bigger than 31's normaly you will get alot of breakage's
lux diffs are fairly cheap to put under
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:08 pm
by TinyGQ
sierrajim wrote:Im keen to get it pretty high
May i ask why?
Leaves will be cheaper to do than coils as you are modifying the equipment already there. Coils means fabricating a completely new suspension system. which inturn costs more.
The best way is to work out what size tyres you want to run and build the car around that.
Maybe post up some info on what type of terrain you want to drive, weather its a daily driver as well, what your budget is etc etc and work from there.
Cheers james, i wont lie i want my rig to go well but i also like the wank value! I love litle kids going oowww its a monster truck, obviously the sierra wont have that affect but i just like the look of the trucks being higher, not stupid hights but lifted. I love driving my lifted GQ around and ive only had a couple of scary moments off road lol!!
It will be a daily driver for 6 months then after that it will spend most of its time in the garage.
People say i have too much lift for the tyres i run on the GQ but i already scrape the top of the wheel arch under full flex, i have no problems having my car a lil too high, i mean im not going to be going in any comps or anything, there isnt much of that in SA as far as i know.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:11 pm
by TinyGQ
MADZUKI wrote:TinyGQ wrote:i run 35's on my GQ but im not sure how the 1.3 will take decent sized rubber? id like to get it up to 35's but at least 33's.
What do the little motors go spining the rubber, does the crawler gears help it at all??
with gears it will do fine...
with anything bigger than 31's normaly you will get alot of breakage's
lux diffs are fairly cheap to put under
Oh yea i have been noticing thats a fairly common practice, ill look into that too, looks like leaf is the way!
Do you have to get adj panhard rods and stuff when you lift a coily sierra?
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:48 pm
by rgzook
the biggest down fall with the coil is that it runs a coil over shock
the coil sits on a seat which is welded to the coil
you can do two inch with littlte problem but if you want 35's you need to do some seirous mods to the front and a body lift.
new coil mounts on the diff seperate shocks you will also need to get the kingpin agles back to normal or it tracks like a bastard (trust me) also you will need to look at how the trailing arms are mounted to the diff as if you were to use caster plates the rear steering arm will hit on the arms. And you can't get a front arb air locker for these off the shelf...
Heath
I am possibly wrong on some things but i have been looking into this for a while now.
I WANT MORE FLEX
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:24 pm
by PJ.zook
Is it worth converting a leaf sprung sierra to coil? Im doing some suspension mods anyway and am wondering if its worth it, they wont be a coil sprung shock setup, but separate spring and shock combo.
Mainly im thinking of doing it as my leaf sprung rides like shit and it will also give me better approach and departure angles, since i was gonna move the axles forward and back respectively too.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:44 pm
by muppet_man67
dont just rush in to hilux diffs. if you find that your breaking too much stuff then it makes some sence otherwise stick with suzuki.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:05 pm
by Nev
Gearing is must on a zook for that sorta rubber. Personally i think its worth it with anything over 30's. And id go leaf unless youve got a bit of money to put into a coil and custom it coz there isnt much available aftermarket.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:21 pm
by mnemonix
As TinyGQ is looking at running 33-35 inch tyres, just how much lift is needed to fit this?
I'm scoping out a LWB zook project and aiming for 33's.
Would SPOA, 2inch BL bring it close to clearing, or is more required?
What about firewall clearance?
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:47 pm
by alien
SPOA using lux fronts all round will EASILY clear a 33" tyre... search "UFO BUILDUP" for mine - theres 31's on it and plenty of room for 33's to go in.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:10 pm
by Guy
I ran 33's (35 claws) SPOA with completely de-arched springs by lifting the guards
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:43 pm
by mud4b
id say go the coil sierra..
as everyone has said they are harder to get working, but they are better (my opinion only) than a leaf setup..
i have spent massive amounts on mine, but after doing that if you take away the things that didnt work and the things i didnt need i dont think it would be any more expensive compaired to a highly moded leaf sprung sierra.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:11 am
by TinyGQ
mud4b wrote:id say go the coil sierra..
as everyone has said they are harder to get working, but they are better (my opinion only) than a leaf setup..
i have spent massive amounts on mine, but after doing that if you take away the things that didnt work and the things i didnt need i dont think it would be any more expensive compaired to a highly moded leaf sprung sierra.
cheers for that guys, i wasnt aware of the coil setup, thought it may be similar to the GQ, even though customising a coily would be better i think ill get a leaf sprung one, hopefully with gears in it cause thats where i get really lost 4.1 this 5.1 that lol!! this is just gonna be a shitty bush basher there isnt enough extreme stuff down here a close range to spend too much cash!!
thanks for all your help, im sure im going to need more before and mostly after i buy one lol!!!
Luka
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:13 pm
by dreamz
Go The Coily!
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:28 pm
by cutzook
go leafy. mine flex's ok for leaf. simpler than coils
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:10 am
by TinyGQ
cutzook wrote:go leafy. mine flex's ok for leaf. simpler than coils
that looks sweet on the little display pic, do you have any other pics i might be able to have a look at??
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:20 am
by mud4b
TinyGQ wrote:cutzook wrote:go leafy. mine flex's ok for leaf. simpler than coils
that looks sweet on the little display pic, do you have any other pics i might be able to have a look at??
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:28 am
by TinyGQ
sweet, thats awesome. I cant wait to get one of these little trucks now!! then i can sell the big GQ and pay off some debt!! Now all i have to do is find one
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:12 pm
by Zute
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