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Been to Engineer today with the cruiser and i have custom lower arms and A frame he told me that i have to get the A frame and lower arms X Rayed where i have welded them, Does any one no where i can get it done in the Sydney, Newcastle, Central coast area.

Modified Toy wrote:Been to Engineer today with the cruiser and i have custom lower arms and A frame he told me that i have to get the A frame and lower arms X Rayed where i have welded them, Does any one no where i can get it done in the Sydney, Newcastle, Central coast area.

before you go shelling out for an xray... just how good is your welding ?

what did you weld it with etc

what im getting at is its expensive to throw money at just to be gouging it all out to have re welded

which engineer btw ?

go diffrent enganeer mine did not say a thing when i toll him

Ice wrote:

Modified Toy wrote:Been to Engineer today with the cruiser and i have custom lower arms and A frame he told me that i have to get the A frame and lower arms X Rayed where i have welded them, Does any one no where i can get it done in the Sydney, Newcastle, Central coast area.

before you go shelling out for an xray... just how good is your welding ?

what did you weld it with etc

what im getting at is its expensive to throw money at just to be gouging it all out to have re welded

which engineer btw ?

ice the welding is good , hope so there doin my control arms

done with a stick too no done with the mig

and the engineer was athell from cardiff

even after the suggestion that the guys had alot of years experince welding he said it did not count and wanted to have the xrayed

plowy wrote:

Ice wrote:

Modified Toy wrote:Been to Engineer today with the cruiser and i have custom lower arms and A frame he told me that i have to get the A frame and lower arms X Rayed where i have welded them, Does any one no where i can get it done in the Sydney, Newcastle, Central coast area.

before you go shelling out for an xray... just how good is your welding ?

what did you weld it with etc

what im getting at is its expensive to throw money at just to be gouging it all out to have re welded

which engineer btw ?

ice the welding is good , hope so there doin my control arms

done with a stick too no done with the mig

and the engineer was athell from cardiff

even after the suggestion that the guys had alot of years experince welding he said it did not count and wanted to have the xrayed

very strange then... the new draft thingy ups the welding standard a lot but thats not in yet... somthing must look not right for him to ask for an xray of it.... some pics of the problem might shed some light

whats next destructive testing of it before he will pass it ? he may as well ask for a pressure ticket

could your mate document any welding qualifications though ?

your not trying to get it engineered as a product to sell are you ?



off the top of my head it probally has to comply with AS1554GP

the new legislation will make it tougher as uses AS1554SP

in qld all arms have to be xrayed.

Ice wrote:

very strange then... the new draft thingy ups the welding standard a lot but thats not in yet...

According to the info on the Dotars site it was adopted by the States via teleconference in Jan.

http://www.dotars.gov.au/transreg/vsb/P ... eb2006.pdf

xenith wrote:go diffrent enganeer mine did not say a thing when i toll him

You can't do that anymore, if you go to an engineer and he knocks you back on something and you don't go back with the problem fixed they are required by law to give the RTA your details.

Ask if ultra sonic test will do.

lot cheaper and quicker.

Nata approved tester and all should be fine.
they will issue a full report on the testing.

We dont do any Xray to slow to expensive all Ultra sonic.

Michael.

cj wrote:

Ice wrote:

very strange then... the new draft thingy ups the welding standard a lot but thats not in yet...

According to the info on the Dotars site it was adopted by the States via teleconference in Jan.

http://www.dotars.gov.au/transreg/vsb/P ... eb2006.pdf

well there you go... i guess all those people that rushed to get their junk done in time are breathing easy now

I rang a different engineer today and he said that he would only have to visually look at the arm design and what the welding is like and that will be ok,i asked him about the new legislation and he said it is only a guide and all things will not be adopted.

also i was told that you can't have a six point cage unless it's bolted in so that he can put down that it is removable on the report .......

and no tyre size allowed 15mm above standard

every one seems to have conflicting information...

All the arms were welded by mig. i will post some pictures of the A frame.

Well some of the stuff he's told you there Modified Toy is completely different to the new Dotars standards.


In a case like that I'd be asking for an engineer and if NSW RTA had a problem with you doing that I'd tell them eaxtly why you did shop around - because the supposedly qualified one you went to hadnt got a clue on the new regulations.

The engineer is just protecting himself from possible (however remote) legal action if something fails. He might have been sued before......

Some engineers are less risk averse than others......

Mark2 wrote:The engineer is just protecting himself from possible (however remote) legal action if something fails. He might have been sued before......

Some engineers are less risk averse than others......

this indicates 1 of 3 things:
1) They do not have the expertise,
2) They do not have the PI Insurance, or
3) They dont have the time to assess the risk.

Mark2 wrote:The engineer is just protecting himself from possible (however remote) legal action if something fails. He might have been sued before......

Some engineers are less risk averse than others......

I know a few people that go to see Athol and find him pretty reasonable to get things done. I'm hoping so, cause thats where I got to take mine..

he hopefully will pass mine or i will crack the shits