Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Almost gettin perfect for the donor car to put in a good donk and box for this price....

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nissan-Patrol-GU ... dZViewItem

Get one with a blown motor for $10k then

barnsey wrote:I'll have the IC set up. I'll give you my address and send you the $ for postage

hey mate i have an intercooler setup for sale if your interested factory top mount off a GU let me know.

barnsey wrote:

morkz wrote:

barnsey wrote:I'll have the IC set up. I'll give you my address and send you the $ for postage

hey mate i have an intercooler setup for sale if your interested factory top mount off a GU let me know.

Well, I'll be getting Boggeds one for free.......

<insert reality here>

What sort of hassle would it be to bung on my 2.8 GQ? Would the gains be worth the effort? What sort of $$ are you after?

not sure what they are worth but its i'm pretty sure its complete with all the hoses and brackets $250

I agree they are starting to look more and more like good donor vehicles. Give it another two years and there will be plenty under $10k.

What are the diff ratios in the 2.8 GUs?

chimpboy wrote:
What are the diff ratios in the 2.8 GUs?

4.6 ideal for 35's

its just the 2.8 GU has the car gearbox if I remembr.

so would be engine and box swap.. Not much more of an issue really

bogged wrote:its just the 2.8 GU has the car gearbox if I remembr.

so would be engine and box swap.. Not much more of an issue really

correct would need to swap both and the transfer case.

And to fit a 4.2 into engine bay you have to relocate one of the engine mounts as well.

morkz wrote:

bogged wrote:its just the 2.8 GU has the car gearbox if I remembr.

so would be engine and box swap.. Not much more of an issue really

correct would need to swap both and the transfer case.

And to fit a 4.2 into engine bay you have to relocate one of the engine mounts as well.

if Im going to this effort, it will either the Chev 6.5 or something similar. shame the 5.9/6.0 Cummins dont fit out of the Dodge RAM.. that with the Alison auto would give me a woody for a year.

barnsey wrote:Did a rich Aunty die recently, Bruce?

The IC sounds good Morkz. If my camper trailer sells, I'll PM you ASAP. Just paid a shit load of bills, and now my daughter has buggered things up by getting into a Qld rep side.........Which = more $$$$$ So if you're not in a hurry......

I suppose the top mount would mean chopping the bonnet, which wouldn't be too much hassle I suppose...............and it might look quite OK too. Hmmm. Is there anything else that might be a problem?

I'm assuming the GQ and GU 2.8s are the same, bar the IC set up.

Am I right?

It shouldnt much different am selling the cooler on behalf of a mate... but I think you will need to cut the bonnet and put a scope which will be good anyway. Piping should be similiar not sure what else someone else may wish to comment on this.

Buy it now price of 16.5k?! This is stupid cheap! It does comes with some mods!

So the market price of Patrol taking another dive? If so, no wonder i have nightmare of selling mine!

McJeff wrote:Buy it now price of 16.5k?! This is stupid cheap! It does comes with some mods!

So the market price of Patrol taking another dive? If so, no wonder i have nightmare of selling mine!

Check the few 7in lifted GQs on Ebay and their prices.

As you say, prices are dropping like a brides nighty.. good if ya buyin'!!
and with word on the news of fuel about to shit itself again at the bowser it may get better yet for buyin!

morkz wrote:

barnsey wrote:I'll have the IC set up. I'll give you my address and send you the $ for postage

hey mate i have an intercooler setup for sale if your interested factory top mount off a GU let me know.

Hi if the sale of the intercooler to barnsey falls through I’d be interested, what motor was in the gu it came off and does it come with the mounting rails?

barnsey wrote:... and now my daughter has buggered things up by getting into a Qld rep side...

I'm sure you're really on the inside.

Either way, congrats on your daughter's achievements. Wanna tell us (bored folks not at TTC) all about it? Perhaps a new thread to minimise the hijack?

Scott

bogged wrote:

morkz wrote:

bogged wrote:its just the 2.8 GU has the car gearbox if I remembr.

so would be engine and box swap.. Not much more of an issue really

correct would need to swap both and the transfer case.

And to fit a 4.2 into engine bay you have to relocate one of the engine mounts as well.

if Im going to this effort, it will either the Chev 6.5 or something similar. shame the 5.9/6.0 Cummins dont fit out of the Dodge RAM.. that with the Alison auto would give me a woody for a year.

To pick up a donor for $15k or > + the cost of the engine swap, you could end up with a good car for $25-30k, depending on how much work you wanted/could do yourself.

Its got to be a good option for some.

If anyone does this with a 4.5 petrol GU and needs to get rid of the petrol engine, keep me in mind!!


Regards

bigbluemav wrote: If anyone does this with a 4.5 petrol GU and needs to get rid of the petrol engine, keep me in mind!!


Regards

I reckon that you would have NO problem sellin a 4.5 or 4.8 for good $, its just waht bits you need to keep on the 4.8 to use that auto with the other motor could be a PITA

bogged wrote:

bigbluemav wrote: If anyone does this with a 4.5 petrol GU and needs to get rid of the petrol engine, keep me in mind!!


Regards

I reckon that you would have NO problem sellin a 4.5 or 4.8 for good $, its just waht bits you need to keep on the 4.8 to use that auto with the other motor could be a PITA

If it was me, I'd be using whatever trans came with the donor engine you were putting in the car. Sell the nissan auto with the engine, the computer stuff would be a nightmare (cost $$).


Regards

I dont reckon you could sell the 4.5 or the 4.8 for nearly the amount your hoping to get.

2 Years ago my mate picked up 4.5 crate motor with everything for $4300 from nissan brand new there is influx of these motors and now u can 4.8 motors just as cheap as there are so many of them. So if you had something with alot of kms on it aint worths hit.

Krimnl tried selling a 4.5 motor on here fairly lowish kms had a few accessories on it and it took a while to sell at $1000.

morkz wrote:I dont reckon you could sell the 4.5 or the 4.8 for nearly the amount your hoping to get.

2 Years ago my mate picked up 4.5 crate motor with everything for $4300 from nissan brand new there is influx of these motors and now u can 4.8 motors just as cheap as there are so many of them. So if you had something with alot of kms on it aint worths hit.

Krimnl tried selling a 4.5 motor on here fairly lowish kms had a few accessories on it and it took a while to sell at $1000.

Man I hope that's still the case when I'm ready to buy!! I emailed a few wreckers and got quoted $3800-4000 for the 4.5, including 'puter etc. for the conversion. For a 4.8, which I wouldn't think would be that thick on the ground considering the percentage fo 4.8's compared with ZD30 and even TD42T's, I got quoted $6600.

But then again, wreckers are rip off merchants!!

Very interesting Morkz, from someone inside the industry. Ta for that. Maybe I could afford to get a 4.8


Regards

bogged wrote:

bigbluemav wrote: If anyone does this with a 4.5 petrol GU and needs to get rid of the petrol engine, keep me in mind!!


Regards

I reckon that you would have NO problem sellin a 4.5 or 4.8 for good $, its just waht bits you need to keep on the 4.8 to use that auto with the other motor could be a PITA

My theory here is that, just as far as working out your finances/budget, you should count on getting zero for any leftover bits from the car you're building up. Anything you get is a bonus. It's just my experience that you either get less than you expect or take longer to sell than you expect or some other problem crops up. So, avoid the stress of a blown budget later and plan for the worse scenario from the start.

Besides, top dollars on the 4.8 would come if you sold every accessory, but you might be wanting to mix 'n' match air con compressors, alternators, etc between the original motor and the replacement.

Jason

morkz wrote:I dont reckon you could sell the 4.5 or the 4.8 for nearly the amount your hoping to get.

2 Years ago my mate picked up 4.5 crate motor with everything for $4300 from nissan brand new there is influx of these motors and now u can 4.8 motors just as cheap as there are so many of them.

while i believe you, a mate when he drowned his 4.5 and bent a rod out the block he was charged well $8k for a new crate donk from missan.. I still think you could grab 4k easily for a 4.5 and more for a 4.8 without trying.

what would be the better choice? the 2.8 diesel
or the 4.5 petrol.
i have hear about big problems with the 2.8 and then again i have heard that they are great.
the only bad thing i have heard about the 4.5 so far is that they drink like a fish...
just wondering what people would rather buy?
both cars exactly the same condition and trim etc.. just different engines

j-top paj wrote:what would be the better choice? the 2.8 diesel
or the 4.5 petrol.
i have hear about big problems with the 2.8 and then again i have heard that they are great.
the only bad thing i have heard about the 4.5 so far is that they drink like a fish...
just wondering what people would rather buy?
both cars exactly the same condition and trim etc.. just different engines

What would be better for... ?
Upgrading later... ?
Keeping perm... ?
Heavy 4bing... ?
Towing... ?

Hard choice I reckon.

IMHO the 4.5 would be better for upgrading later.
the 2.8 with a lot of coin spent on it to keep.. but then you could have got a 4.2 for not much more and would be happier.

bogged wrote:

j-top paj wrote:what would be the better choice? the 2.8 diesel
or the 4.5 petrol.
i have hear about big problems with the 2.8 and then again i have heard that they are great.
the only bad thing i have heard about the 4.5 so far is that they drink like a fish...
just wondering what people would rather buy?
both cars exactly the same condition and trim etc.. just different engines

What would be better for... ?
Upgrading later... ?
Keeping perm... ?
Heavy 4bing... ?
Towing... ?

Hard choice I reckon.

IMHO the 4.5 would be better for upgrading later.
the 2.8 with a lot of coin spent on it to keep.. but then you could have got a 4.2 for not much more and would be happier.

overall. a bit of touring, a bit of rock crawling, towing a trailer (not big van or anything) keeping for 5 years or so.