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pod question
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:33 pm
by chatto
is there any gain to put a pod filter on ,or just leave standerd set up, or put on a snorkal .not shore what to do
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:40 pm
by flynn
a lot of ppl have put snorkels on, mainly pvc pipe or custom steel jobs, i think i heard that land rover snorkels fit, spartacus had a pod filter on, it went alright i spose til he hit water.
u could always go a pod on the end of a snorkel
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:30 pm
by Bowhunter
u could always go a pod on the end of a snorkel
Wouldn't rain be an issue here?
And excessive exposure to dust on dirt roads (this would be lessened when under the bonnet wouldn't it?)
Luke
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:36 pm
by flynn
hey dont look at me.
ask pat callahan (4x4 monthly) he's got it on his zook.
Wouldn't rain be an issue here?
And excessive exposure to dust on dirt roads
u wld think so....
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:47 pm
by Bowhunter
No probs mate
Just wonderin is all...
I have a pod on mine but it was there when I bought it and so have no airbox to run a snorkel to/through...but want to put a snorkel on.
I know I could source an airbox from a wrecker but if the pod on the snorkel idea is functional and do-able then I'd go with that perhaps instead.
Luke
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:55 pm
by flynn
ive also seen on a rocky having the air box on the outside gaurd and then a 90' bend then the snorkle head attached.
kinda like wat u see on fj40's.
looks alright, but id prefer a snorkle tho.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:58 pm
by Mudsierra
Yeah here's what i'd do is I'd fit a snorkel, joined to a custom airbox for the pod if it doesn't fit the stardard airbox, from the airbox, to the intake still standard. Better that way without the pod lying in the engine bay waiting for disaster to happen.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:04 pm
by flynn
u'd go to the effort to custom a box.....yeah thats pretty much wat i had in mind...pod in air box with snorkel
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:23 pm
by Mudsierra
It's not that hard to make a custom airbox if you know how to use a welder
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:33 pm
by HotFourOk
You cant put a pod filter on the end of a snokel. The rain will stuff it up amongst other things.
A pod filter in the engine bay does allow a lot of hot engine bay air to be sucked in... so some sort of ducting is usually beneficial.
The best setup would be a snokel going into an airbox with panel filter... you could even make up an airbox surrounding your pod filter, and duct the snorkel into that. Seen in done numerous times, as people are so positive that pods flow a million times more air than a panel filter.
If you were keen, just go find a big airbox at the wreckers and get it for cheap
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:23 am
by rOd
I use to have a custom made rampod on the old Feroza. Though it sounded good and gained a tiny bit of HP, I dont think it protected the engine as good as the OE filter. Even with the extra "sock" I used for offroad.
If you can find a K&N cartridge to fit the OE airbox, I think that would offer improved airflow with the protection of the box around it.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:39 am
by HotFourOk
It has been discussed on here before that an original paper element offers so much more protection for the engine than any foam or oiled filter (Unifilter / K&N). These performance filters flow very well, but at the expense of letting smaller particles through.. hence why you shouldnt use them offroad.
If you go offroad, use a paper element. If you only drive on the street, use a K&N as it will give you a bit better flow.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:06 pm
by Mudsierra
And which is why you should oil ur pod if your gonna take it offroad, same thing with dirt bikes
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:00 pm
by murcod
Even when oiled (which they should be anyway!) K&N and foam filters would appear to not filter as well. Do a bit of a search via google for independent tests.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:38 pm
by Bowhunter
Ummm...not wanting to sound dumb
...but how would one go about oiling their pod filter?
Luke
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:42 am
by HotFourOk
If it is a K&N pod filter, You buy the cleaning kit.... you spray the cleaner onto the element, wash is under the tap. Once dried, you spray the pinky coloured oil onto the element, up and down each pleat.
These kits are available from auto shops for like $20-$30.
Same for uni filter, you just buy a oiling kit for them.
Any other brand, I wouldnt want to be running in my car, let alone offroad! Especially dodgy el-cheapo ones on eBay and at Supercheap etc.
There has been heaps of tests and they all show that standard filters outperform all 'high performace' filters in regards to filtration by a long shot.
And MudRoza, racing dirt bikes have been spoken about on a thread here on OL, saying how they get rebuilt quite often, which is why they use a performance filter and not a stock one. Engine life is hampered through this practice, yet more power is produced from the engine. Just weigh up what you need more.
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:06 am
by Goatse.AJ
If you're after a bit of extra poke around town, just take the "lid" of your aircleaner, and clean it out before putting the lid back on for offroading.
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:17 pm
by Patchy
if its a diesel put a snorkel on it, that way you can drown it and she will keep running sweet. on the other hand if its a petrol put a pod in if you like, most petrol engines have spark problems when you cover the engine in water (dizy, arking out leads/coil ect ect) so i wouldnt bother with a snorkel on them
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:26 pm
by HotFourOk
A snorkel on a petrol motor wil still give you a colder air intake and keep the intake above water.... with the elctrics.. you can cover the dizzy and that with rubber gloves.. etc etc... and put silicone spray on it all to repel water... works well if you do it right.
But you cant beat a diesel
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:59 pm
by Patchy
HotFourOk wrote:But you cant beat a diesel
DANG!!! DANG!!!
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:13 pm
by rowdy24
Went to buy a standard paper filter and they wanted $70. Is this right?
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:18 pm
by murcod
What brand? I think my Ryco was more like $50 - $60?
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:36 am
by rowdy24
A Ryco from Autobarn. Seems like they ain't that cheap.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:48 am
by murcod
Try a few different stores? Might be worth pricing a genuine one too?