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rock lights
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:02 am
by bazooked
hey guys whats a good light to use under the car for night runs that can take a bit of punishment? and that arent to exey?,
thanks graeme.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:12 am
by turps
Try supercheap they do some good little lights for about $20pr. They put out alriht light and are cheap if you smash them to bits.
Also another idea is to use 12v downlights and make your own globe holders out of PVC pipe. My brother did this for his bike light and worked well untill he replaced it with a HID headlight.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:21 am
by DamTriton
turps wrote:Try supercheap they do some good little lights for about $20pr. They put out alriht light and are cheap if you smash them to bits.
Also another idea is to use 12v downlights and make your own globe holders out of PVC pipe. My brother did this for his bike light and worked well untill he replaced it with a HID headlight.
You can get the LED versions for about $15-20 that won't generate as much heat and shouldn't shatter the moment they get hit with a bit of moisture when they are on.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:34 am
by turps
DAMKIA wrote:
You can get the LED versions for about $15-20 that won't generate as much heat and shouldn't shatter the moment they get hit with a bit of moisture when they are on.
yer only problem is I was told they have issues with the pins. There abit delicate. But they would be much better to use.
But the good thing with downlights is they are generally under 15w. Where as most driving lights are a min of 50w's.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:44 am
by DamTriton
turps wrote:DAMKIA wrote:
You can get the LED versions for about $15-20 that won't generate as much heat and shouldn't shatter the moment they get hit with a bit of moisture when they are on.
yer only problem is I was told they have issues with the pins. There abit delicate. But they would be much better to use.
But the good thing with downlights is they are generally under 15w. Where as most driving lights are a min of 50w's.
Standard downlight as used in kitchens etc is 50 watts. You can get some that are 20 watts that are either the same size as the 50's, or smaller (about 2/3 the diameter). Still going to blow if you hit a puddle with them on....
LED ones are 3 watts
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:57 am
by ausyota
Getting ready for the night comp allready huh?
I have 3 pair of super cheap little driving/fog type lights that I was going to use.
But 3 pairs = 330watts = about 25amps of current draw
I saw a cheap LED trouble light the other day in one of the hardware catalogs and was thinking that would be cool if its bright enough and would draw bugger all amps.
Paul.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:37 pm
by BundyRumandCoke
Im currently working on the downlight/PVC design. At Xmas time, I bought 10 12V10W lights which are really for the optic fibre xmas trees. Fitting them into PVC pipe, after crimping red wire joiners onto the terminals. Cutting my own perspex covers with a hole saw, as these 10 watt lights dont have their own covers. Wiring them in parallel, then filling the entire PVC tube with silicone to seal the whole thing from water, ect.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:28 pm
by grimbo
the other option is to use 12V pond lights, they are designed to be submersed in water so wont get affected by water and mud and shouyld be bright enough for rock lights. you canget them rom Bunnings etc
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:59 pm
by chimpboy
The cheap supercheap ones are completely plastic, too, and the plastic is quite soft - which means it can take a bit of a whack and still be okay, lens and all. Normally I wouldn't want a plastic housing for a light but in that location it's not a bad idea. I'd go the supercheap plastic ones and seal them up with goop.
Jason
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:25 pm
by ausyota
My super cheap ones are steel with a glass lens.
I will post a pic later.
Paul.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:32 pm
by BundyRumandCoke
Are they the eye shaped ones? I had a pair of then as reversing lights on the Rocky, but the rusted out pretty quick.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:20 pm
by Micka
The best ones are from Roundeyes in the states.
They draw fark all power. Are waterproof, shatter resistant, and pump out some awesome light.
www.roundeyes.com
Micka
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:37 pm
by bj42turbo
got these second handys of ebay for $21 delivered, haven't tried them out in the real world yet.
BJ
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:51 pm
by GUHOON
I have the supacheap $20 jobs for my reverse lights mounted under the rear bar , they are bright enough to see out the rear windows with dark arse tint , and have lasted alot longer than i thought they would mounted where they are.
Should be OK for rock lights.
Not the greatest pic but ...........meh.

light
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:34 pm
by klrevo
pretty sure that Reece, MUD80D runs the downlight affair somehow, seemed to work well when i saw it, theyre just the little 12V downlights, dont know whihc ones or how hes got them wired/mounted, but they worked
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... p?id=29229
dean

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:26 am
by bazooked
those leds look prety swanky but they a bit pricey, will see what i can find around here.
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:47 am
by ISUZUROVER
This would be the best and cheapest option:
12V Halogen lights, 51mm diameter, 20W or 50W, 12 degree or 38 degree beam, $5.99 each from Jaycar (cheaper if you buy lots), plus about $3 for a connector, then just mount them behind some hard plastic so they don't get broken.
I made a mtb lighting system using these (for night rides) and they work great.
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:19 pm
by +dj_hansen+
I was in jaycar yesterday.. and they have started stocking LED replacements for the downlights... expensive tho, $40 each for the largest size... if your worried about current draw tho....
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:57 pm
by DamTriton
+dj_hansen+ wrote:I was in jaycar yesterday.. and they have started stocking LED replacements for the downlights... expensive tho, $40 each for the largest size... if your worried about current draw tho....
can get them online for $16-18
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:21 pm
by N*A*M
anything is fine for rock lights as long as it is protected from rocks. you shouldn't need to worry about mud because they're useless in the mud. if you're using lights for reversing, mount them off the spare wheel carrier up high. it'll give you a better field of vision anyway. for the record, i use the small supercheap ones that take a h3 bulb. good for rock lights and for wheelie lights.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:28 pm
by antt
N*A*M wrote:anything is fine for rock lights as long as it is protected from rocks. you shouldn't need to worry about mud because they're useless in the mud. if you're using lights for reversing, mount them off the spare wheel carrier up high. it'll give you a better field of vision anyway. for the record, i use the small supercheap ones that take a h3 bulb. good for rock lights and for wheelie lights k bye

fixed

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:39 pm
by mike
N*A*M wrote:anything is fine for rock lights as long as it is protected from rocks. you shouldn't need to worry about mud because they're useless in the mud. if you're using lights for reversing, mount them off the spare wheel carrier up high. it'll give you a better field of vision anyway. for the record, i use the small supercheap ones that take a h3 bulb. good for rock lights and for wheelie lights.

I use these 2.
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:46 pm
by De-lux
slight detour,
how cool did the trucks in TTC loook when they went into the water with the lights on??
i thought it was cool
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:42 pm
by procompman
what about the side marker lights they use on trucks the hella led ones r really tuff was in a truck shop the other day and the bloke in there was hitting them with a wrecking bar and would not break but i think you would have to have afew as there not real bright
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:32 pm
by pongo
BUy some of those torches that you shake instead of useing batteries. If they start to go dull just shake them with your right foot.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:08 pm
by Rainbow Warrior
GUHOON wrote:I have the supacheap $20 jobs for my reverse lights mounted under the rear bar , they are bright enough to see out the rear windows with dark arse tint , and have lasted alot longer than i thought they would mounted where they are.
Should be OK for rock lights.
Not the greatest pic but ...........meh.

Hmmm should have photoshopped out the snatch strap

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:23 pm
by ISUZUROVER
Rainbow Warrior wrote:
Hmmm should have photoshopped out the snatch strap

Why? He probably just finished towing a broken toyota or nissan up the hill.
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:34 am
by Utemad
I don't have any rock lights (no need in a Rodeo. Just listen for the crunch) however why not use some of those 11 watt supercheap flouros?
Low current draw, really bright, good spread of light and cheap at $10 each.