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Front end Recov point.

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:08 pm
by Nevyn
How hard can it be??

As some of you know I need a recov point on the front end of the Patrol. have been to a couple of different places. First was ARB, the guys said $100 bucks including the hook. I said great but I can't do it right this moment, I will organise it soon. Two weeks later I ring back they say the guy I spoke to has left and that they will have to have it back in and re assess it again and they decide whether they can do it after all. Oh and not for another week or two.

went to extreme 4x4 and the guys says he hasn't done an MQ before, he wants to charge me $400 to do it and even then I have to sign a waver because he won't guarantee the strength of his work.

I have the tools to do this myself but being a safety thing I don't want to do it myself simply because I can't be 100% certain that I will do it to the best strength.

what have other people done??

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:55 pm
by blkmav
Get a factory chassis mounted hook from a wrecker. Mine had been removed to fit the bullbar. $20 from Halls.

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:19 pm
by Nevyn
blkmav wrote:Get a factory chassis mounted hook from a wrecker. Mine had been removed to fit the bullbar. $20 from Halls.
I would much prefer to keep my Bullbar, I think that's half the prob. is there any hooks etc that the hook itself sits above/below where it bolts on??

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does the factory one allow for the bar?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:25 pm
by blkmav
Mine was a GQ and I was able to mount it and the bullbar to the chassis using the factory bolt holes.

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:01 pm
by Nevyn
blkmav wrote:Mine was a GQ and I was able to mount it and the bullbar to the chassis using the factory bolt holes.

"was" being the operative word ??? meaning you can't send me any photo's??

I am thinking that I may be able to make a hole in the bullbar if I weld in some re-inforement, that way I can still use that point but it would be untidy. was hoping there may be some different types of hooks or ideas about changing the bullbar bolts and mount it to the bullbar ???? I don't know, I just wanted to do it through a store. Anyone who has seen my patrol knows I am happy to dodgy things up but there is a difference between a crappy looking snorkel and a recov point. Not somthing you compromise on.

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:07 pm
by blkmav
This is an aftermarket hook for a GU, the GQ mount is the same

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... p?id=17669

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:22 pm
by Nevyn
blkmav wrote:This is an aftermarket hook for a GU, the GQ mount is the same
I love you !!! (In a non-sexual, only temporary, only cause you found what I want sort of way) :twisted:

I knew I had seen that sort of hook before. that's exactly what I was thinking. Where did you get it?? do you remember how much ??

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:51 pm
by blkmav
Nevyn wrote:
blkmav wrote:This is an aftermarket hook for a GU, the GQ mount is the same
I love you !!! (In a non-sexual, only temporary, only cause you found what I want sort of way) :twisted:

I knew I had seen that sort of hook before. that's exactly what I was thinking. Where did you get it?? do you remember how much ??
Not mine, Outback Ideas make them outbackideas@three.com.au

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:14 pm
by beretta
Manells are apparently the distributor for these now. So maybe call Manell Motors if you're in Sydney, otherwise they are on ebay for $55 each, click on link below:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Patrol-Front-Rec ... dZViewItem

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:30 pm
by Nevyn
OK well I love them then :-p

Na seriously, thanks. I have sent them an email with these two photo's attatched. I hope they have they same thing for my MQ.

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:13 pm
by pongo
wouldnt it be possible to use an

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drill a hole into bull bar and run a nice 6 mm(or so) plate behind the bar. Run one either side incase you need extra .

That way you still have your bar and the strength that it has. Maybe not pedestrian friendly though

cheers

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:31 am
by Nevyn
That makes sense. How do I know if the bolts on the bullbar are High tensile or not??

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:10 pm
by Nevyn
Sorted.

Hey thanks for the good ideas, both of those end options would have worked well. But the end result was easier.


Went into the wreckers today, found a factory one. Three bolts (even though it was a bit stuck fast by the re-arranged bumper)

$5 at the counter (didn't even bother trying to bargain that price down)

3mm adjustment to the B/Bar and a bit of wd40 to help clean the captive nuts in my own chassis and she bolts straight in.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:27 pm
by beretta
Good work, that is a much better option than the eyelets mentioned above. I have them on my bar and have nearly ripped them out while winching, so for my set up they're no good, they have to be very carefully thought out.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:10 pm
by blkmav
Agreed, the eyelets I fitted are only to hold the hook when not in use

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:23 pm
by beretta
blkmav wrote:Agreed, the eyelets I fitted are only to hold the hook when not in use
Exactly the same here.....and for tying the end of the swag to.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:40 pm
by pongo
beretta wrote:Good work, that is a much better option than the eyelets mentioned above. I have them on my bar and have nearly ripped them out while winching, so for my set up they're no good, they have to be very carefully thought out.
I reckon all you would have to do was rio the rear of the bar so they wont pull through. Glad to hear you have it sorted and cheaply too ;)

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:51 pm
by blkmav
pongo wrote:I reckon all you would have to do was rio the rear of the bar so they wont pull through. Glad to hear you have it sorted and cheaply too
Nope - I have 6mm plate 10cm x 10cm behind mine and they are as close as I could get to the chassis mounts. My bar has dents from the eyelet base just from holding the hook tight. I may one day use them for a double line pull but i would never ever snatch from them.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:59 pm
by pongo
>Scratching head smiley<. How thick is the steel on your bar? I think id better stay with the old trusty recovery point

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:20 pm
by blkmav
pongo wrote:>Scratching head smiley<. How thick is the steel on your bar? I think id better stay with the old trusty recovery point
It's an ARB bar

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:10 pm
by Cossie
Whats the rating on those eyelet bolts? I thought they were only around 2 tons unless you buy the mega expensive ones?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:39 pm
by blkmav
Cossie wrote:Whats the rating on those eyelet bolts? I thought they were only around 2 tons unless you buy the mega expensive ones?
WLL 6T and I did buy the expensive eyebolts from http://www.townleydropforge.com.au/