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relay/timer

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:21 pm
by cplux
anyone know of a relay/timer 12v that will upon losing input signal stay latched on for a few seconds then turn off, want to try something like this for my supercharger setup so i can keep boost on gear changes.



Craig

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:51 pm
by -Scott-
What's wrong with an off the shelf blow off valve?

Scott

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:04 pm
by cplux
on my setup blow-off valve will serve absolutely no purpose, I want to get around a little idiosyncrasy in my computer. I can set the computer/supercharger setup up differently but this in itself has other minor problems.

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:04 pm
by F'n_Rover
you will be able to get a commercial version from an electrical wholesaler who deals in industrial control stuff. Most of the common units are multy purpose and multi voltage - and will do what you want.....

or if you are good with a soldering iron, jaycar, dickheads, or altronics sell car interior light delay kits - you could use one of these, (modded for less delay).


Also - as Scott said, WTF are you doing ? :D more details, interesting.

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:53 am
by cplux
was thinking along the lines of one of those interior delay kits, just gotta get off my arse and have a good think about how to do it, just thought i'd ask on here first.

as for what i am doing with it I, just want to delay the turn off of my. s.c clutch.

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:17 am
by 99Rodeo
Ive seen a relay timer fitted to New Holland front deck lawn mowers. Its fitted to the fuel cut solenoid. If you lift your bum off the seat for more than 2 seconds it cuts out.

It uses the usual 5 pins base

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:20 am
by ausoops

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:28 pm
by RaginRover
last time I priced an interior light delay relay it was about $130

Tom

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:52 pm
by murcod
If you're handy with a soldering iron and have a bit of electronics knowledge you could whip up a circuit based on a 555 timer chip.

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:04 pm
by -Scott-
murcod wrote:If you're handy with a soldering iron and have a bit of electronics knowledge you could whip up a circuit based on a 555 timer chip.
You could probably buy a pre-packaged kit from Dick Smith or Jaycar, which will do precisely what you want. I'd guess $10 to $20.

Alternatively, can you disable the cut-out and rely on a BOV instead?

Good luck,

Scott

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:31 pm
by cplux
NJ SWB wrote:
murcod wrote:If you're handy with a soldering iron and have a bit of electronics knowledge you could whip up a circuit based on a 555 timer chip.
You could probably buy a pre-packaged kit from Dick Smith or Jaycar, which will do precisely what you want. I'd guess $10 to $20.

Alternatively, can you disable the cut-out and rely on a BOV instead?

Good luck,

Scott
have thought of designing a 555 timer,

BOV will not achieve anything as stated before, i already run a compressor bypass valve, but that has no bearing on what i want the timer for.

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:40 pm
by chimpboy
Not suggesting you buy this one, but you could cannibalise one from a pick-a-part:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VW-INTERIOR-LIGH ... dZViewItem

The delay unit will be in there somewhere!

Alternatively the jaycar kit is $18.95. It includes a "fade-out" feature, which you wouldn't want. Not being familiar with the kit I couldn't say what bit you need to leave off, but it would be pretty easy I am sure.

Another option - a glow plug relay. I am not sure how long you want the clutch to stay on for, but glow plug relays usually run about 15 seconds I think... too much?

Or, just from a random web search: http://www.lazer.com.au/alarms.shtml and scroll down to the "universal timer". $22, already assembled it seems.

Good luck.

Jason

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:43 pm
by chimpboy
cplux wrote:have thought of designing a 555 timer,

BOV will not achieve anything as stated before, i already run a compressor bypass valve, but that has no bearing on what i want the timer for.
We get that you don't want to use the BOV now, but we are still interested in more detail on the computer issue and your objective ;)

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:44 pm
by cplux
pretty much what i'm after i think bit exxy though

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:57 pm
by F'n_Rover
cplux wrote:
pretty much what i'm after i think bit exxy though
Bit exxy alright, for that price i could build you a micro processor controlled unit with an rs232 interface, and i'd even throw in gps tracking :?

If the delay time is critical, don't go for stuff like the 555 or the one from the above link. They will drift with temp and age. Look for a crystal based unit (temp drift is only a few parts per million)

Why not just wire the clutch on permanent ?

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:05 pm
by cplux
not going to go into too much detail it is a completely custom setup, but the clutch does serve a purpose on my particulay setup, have tried having the clutch permanent but it has affects on a few other things.

thanks for the input

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 4:51 pm
by V8 Middy
Can you clarify exactly what you are trying to do?

Ie. when you want power, when not and for how long. I should be able to booty fab something for a couple of $

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:57 pm
by robsjimny
Try jaycar or dick smith. It's a circut call a flexitimer. Comes in kit form. Fully adjustable. Will do what you want and more. Just a matter of connected in up with the car.


Rob

Why not share???

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:36 pm
by cookiesa
Curious your asking others to "share" their knowledge and info but aren't willing to do the same????