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home made shackles

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:06 pm
by zooksta
i am making my own xtended shackles for my sierra and want to put in greasable pins where can i get them from other than the 4wd shops cos the local one wants to charge big dollars for them and there has to be another alternativedoes anyone sell them online any help would be greatly appreciated thanx

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:54 pm
by Gwagensteve
IMHO don't bother. for tthe work involved, there will be very little advantage if you use rubber or any of the new style urethane bushes. The old style very stiff urethane bushes needed grease, but it doesn;t seem to make very much difference now.

The bushes will be getting torn up by articulation well before they wear out through friction.

Steve.

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:04 pm
by suzuki boy
I made my own cost about $7 had new spring bushes in the springs but didn't put greasable pins in (I thought bad thing at the time) But the bushs have held up well and they don't make any noises at all. Works out way cheeper than buying them!

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:16 pm
by Gwagensteve
in case anyone gets the wrong idea, I quite like extended shaackles so long as they are not over 2" over stock length and DONT have centre braces (the centre braces will murder articulation on a light car like a sierra)

I can't see the point of the greasable pin.

Steve.

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:25 pm
by waxhead..
I have had home made missing-link 2" longer than standard shackles for over a year, I was getting sick of the diff movement on road so I braced the centres. The on-road handling vastly improved and the flex has not changed in the slightest. I have pictures to support this.

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:37 pm
by beally
i agree with waxhead.

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:23 pm
by Gutless
I make extended shackles for sierras. They are laser cut, and have a centre brace. they are made from 10mm plate, and have all necessary bolts ( non- greasable) included. $100 plus postage ( bout $8-$15)

Not as cheap as home made ones, but these are a much better looking shackle than 2 bits of flat bar with holes in it.....

Have a think about it. :cool:

this deal goes for anyone too. I have 8 sets here :roll:

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:54 pm
by Gwagensteve
I agree the missing link shackles need bracing, but IMHO these suck anyway so it is a moot point.

If you use the right bolts and keep the length sensible, you don't need the bracing, but like most off road mods, the balance of off road ability and on raod behaviour depends a lot on what the owner wants to put up with

Steve.

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:03 pm
by zooksta
thanx for all responses i appreciat it heaps am looking at making them without the greasable pins worx out much cheaper thanx everyone

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:13 pm
by Gutless
Pic

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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:58 am
by suzuki boy
Those extended shackles look sweet gutless!

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:26 am
by mistaboz
Gutless - Is that per pair or each or?
What do you think (apart from strength) would be the advantages of using say 10mm steel or 6mm steel?
The shackles you make are obviously suited to the orginal bolts etc?
Any particular reason you went for 10mm and used a brace?
what length are they? 2inch extended?

Sorry for all the questions :roll:

Cheers Bozz.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:08 am
by Gutless
mistaboz wrote:Gutless - Is that per pair or each or? SET OF 4

What do you think (apart from strength) would be the advantages of using say 10mm steel or 6mm steel? JUST STRENGTH REALLY. i HAVE SEEN 6MM BEND UNDER THE RIGHT CONDITIONS. I NEVER BENT MY 10MM ONES.

The shackles you make are obviously suited to the orginal bolts etc?YES. but they come with NEW high tensile bolts just incase yours are rusty ;)

Any particular reason you went for 10mm and used a brace? Strength and on road manners

what length are they? 2inch extended? yep. 50mm over standard

Sorry for all the questions :roll: No worries ;)

Cheers Bozz.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:12 am
by Gutless
I know its off topic, but I also make fuel tank bash gaurds for sierras now :cool: $100 + postage (bout $25-$30 postage.....they are solid :twisted: )

I'll throw some more pics of the shackles, and a pic of the bash gaurd up tonight :cool:

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:57 pm
by mistaboz
What thickness is the fuel tank guard.
Plate steel or checkerplate?

Bozz.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:30 pm
by Gutless
mistaboz wrote:What thickness is the fuel tank guard.
Plate steel or checkerplate?

Bozz.
3mm plate steel. ( not checker plate......it snaggs on everything.

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:44 am
by Spike_Sierra
Interested in the bash plates :armsup: :armsup: :armsup:
pics up dude!

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:00 pm
by CHOPS1
Gutless wrote:
mistaboz wrote:What thickness is the fuel tank guard.
Plate steel or checkerplate?

Bozz.
3mm plate steel. ( not checker plate......it snaggs on everything.
Hey Gutlless you got pics of it yet?

chop

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:50 pm
by Gutless
sorry. went away wheeling for easter.

And would you believe, that every time I have been wheeling prior to installing a bash gaurd, I have managed to gore my tank, and now that I have one, I can't even get a scratch on the bash gaurd!! ( not through lack of trying either) :bad-words:

Pics up tomorrow :cool:

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:21 pm
by Gutless
sorry for the delay.

Picks of shackles and bash gaurd.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:29 pm
by Gutless
one more :)

See the 4 sale section for more details.

Otherwise, use these pics to make your own :lol: ( added this for tech reasons)

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:32 pm
by muppet_man67
once installed how much room is there between the bash plate and fuel tank?

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:58 pm
by -Mandy-
Gutless wrote:fuel tank bash gaurds for sierras now :cool: $100 + postage
Wouldn't it be better to buy from this thread instead of for sale thread. ;) They are dearer there :? Still, they are cheap :cool:
Gutless wrote: ITEM:
Bash gard
CONDITION:
NEW
REASON FOR SELLING:
I make them
PRICE AND PRICE CONDITIONS:
$120 plus postage

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:59 pm
by Gutless
-Mandy- wrote:
Gutless wrote:fuel tank bash gaurds for sierras now :cool: $100 + postage
Wouldn't it be better to buy from this thread instead of for sale thread. ;) They are dearer there :? Still, they are cheap :cool:
Gutless wrote: ITEM:
Bash gard
CONDITION:
NEW
REASON FOR SELLING:
I make them
PRICE AND PRICE CONDITIONS:
$120 plus postage
there was a minor design change that makes them multifit now. Takes a little more time to make it.

I was thinking of hiking the price up to $200 but then I remembered that we are all poor suzuki owners :cool:

Prolly be selling them on EBAY soon, along with the shackles, and BL kits too, so it will definately be cheaper to buy off this forum. ;)

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:20 pm
by -Mandy-
:cool: Was just pointing out the slight difference, but like i said, they are still cheap ;) :cool:

On another note...you got any pics of your old zook (lwb) ;) :P

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:38 pm
by angus350
can the extended shackles be used with standard suspention and all that, can they be fitted by someone that doesnt know much about this stuff.]
and they basically give more lift and better offroading ?
cheers

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:46 pm
by Gutless
angus350 wrote:can the extended shackles be used with standard suspention and all that, can they be fitted by someone that doesnt know much about this stuff.]
and they basically give more lift and better offroading ?
cheers
Yes they can be fitted with standard suspension, but without longer shocks, they will do little more than give you a small lift ( bout 1")

If properly setup, they will allow more downtravel, due to the shackle being longer, but otherwise, they just give you a little more room in the gaurds for larger tyres.

Yes, you can fit them easily. There may be some info in the bible, otherwise, try the search function, or ask on here.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:01 pm
by angus350
alright cheers, if i decide to get some ill see if you still got them for sale

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:58 am
by Gutless
angus350 wrote:alright cheers, if i decide to get some ill see if you still got them for sale

just PM me if you decide you want them. ;)