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rear or front!..... difflock which kind!

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:14 pm
by mroffroader
i know i know ive looked in bible but nothing really answers my question... what is best for a vitara like 199.. something not after 6 probably. i want to know what is the best place to put a difflock front or rear and which kind... if i put a auto lokka in the rear wont it affect it badly on road? how much are the total arb setups? i like the idea of switching it in or out, or is it better to put a auto lokka in the front....help me zuki gurus ive just sold my nissan safari to buy a vitara YAY! :D cheers!

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:22 pm
by jeep97tj
Best would be front and rear air lockers
then auto locker front, arb rear
then auto locker front and rear
then lsd front auto locker rear
then its between lsd front and rear or just a auto locker rear.

Always start with the rear, unless something comes up cheap for the front.

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:31 pm
by Bad JuJu
There is a good link in this thread too http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=65543

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:02 am
by Gwagensteve
Vitara front ends are generallt pretty weak unless you have an all steel setup like CJ's, so I would steer clear of an auto locker in the front of them becase the front end will be working a lot harder all the time you are in 4WD - you can't choose when to give it a break.

If this is a road driven car that you will put lots of km's on, I would airlock the rear first and then spend some time gathering the steel front end parts. You will need the axle housing and differential third member from a manual V6 Grand vitara. If you do this before you lock the front the front will be very reliable.

If it is a mostly off road car, then you can spool or weld the rear (Trail tough in the US sell a well priced mini spool) and put all the money into the front airlocker and steel components.

The real cheapskate option would be to weld the rear, fit a sierra rear diff centre to the front (the whole drop out third member- this will fit with some bootyfab to the rear diff mount) and put an auto locker in it. This will give you fully locked traction with the lowest cost, but there are a few compromises with this setup- it is still possible to break the alloy front axlehousing, the auto locker is not ideal, and the spooled rear is not as street friendly.

A pair of airlockers are around the $3k mark in aus.

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:25 am
by ljxtreem
Gwagensteve wrote:Vitara front ends are generallt pretty weak unless you have an all steel setup like CJ's, so I would steer clear of an auto locker in the front of them becase the front end will be working a lot harder all the time you are in 4WD - you can't choose when to give it a break.

If this is a road driven car that you will put lots of km's on, I would airlock the rear first and then spend some time gathering the steel front end parts. You will need the axle housing and differential third member from a manual V6 Grand vitara. If you do this before you lock the front the front will be very reliable.

If it is a mostly off road car, then you can spool or weld the rear (Trail tough in the US sell a well priced mini spool) and put all the money into the front airlocker and steel components.

The real cheapskate option would be to weld the rear, fit a sierra rear diff centre to the front (the whole drop out third member- this will fit with some bootyfab to the rear diff mount) and put an auto locker in it. This will give you fully locked traction with the lowest cost, but there are a few compromises with this setup- it is still possible to break the alloy front axlehousing, the auto locker is not ideal, and the spooled rear is not as street friendly.

A pair of airlockers are around the $3k mark in aus.
I have done the booty fab way :armsup:, with the sierra rear third member in the front, and It is as steve says, booty fab, It requires some shaving of the alloy vitara housing and some welding onto the cast sierra third member, so I would advise against it, and It dosent realy fit :D , It hits every where :D, but it does work, mine held together for a long time even with a welded centre.

Steel GV bits are the bets way to go, for shure :cool:

Mock :D