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shackle reversal?
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:15 pm
by ofr57
I was just wondering if anybody has reversed the front shackles instead of being on the front of the spring to the back like the hilux and all that
just an idea so when i put bigger shackles and springs its not going to be sticking a foot out the front of the car
EDIT: i think madzuki has it?
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:08 pm
by lay80n
Fair few ppl have - redzook, Madzuki, check peoples members threads. There is also a kit for it from RRO or Calmini or someone else.
Layto....
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:15 pm
by moose
did it about 5years ago !!!!
luv it !!!
takes most of the rough ride out of the suspension !! (espech on SWB !!!)
only way forward is coils !!!!
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:27 pm
by ofr57
well mines a lwb zookie ute .. so the same as redzooks mines a 86 though
I'm thinking would get heaps more flex but it wont be to much as a cop magnet? am i correct
so anybody got pic's?
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:47 pm
by Zookified
It would be pretty damn hard to pick up. I'm sure dot would still notice it though, but it will be alot less obvious than a chassis extension.
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:11 pm
by markil
Only pic I could find offhand where you can see the SR half decently. Also has 200mm chassis extension.
Mark.
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:13 pm
by just cruizin'
For a SR you'd be wanting to move the diff foward anyway right?
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:33 pm
by markil
just cruizin' wrote:For a SR you'd be wanting to move the diff foward anyway right?
Yes. With a SR the diff moves backwards on up travel instead of forwards. My front diff is over 6" forward of stock location now, but it's not neccesary to go quite that far forward, especially with smaller tyres.
Mark.
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:41 pm
by just cruizin'
Thanks Mark
So a chassis ext is required anyway?
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:12 am
by Damo
just cruizin' wrote:Thanks Mark
So a chassis ext is required anyway?
You could do one without a chassis extension, but the result would defeat the purpose of doing a SR in the first place. So in effect yes it is required.
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:51 am
by ofr57
well i was planning on putting it in without a chassie extension so that i would be able to fit alittle longer spring and longer shackles without effecting the approch angle
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:10 am
by Damo
ofr57 wrote:well i was planning on putting it in without a chassie extension so that i would be able to fit alittle longer spring and longer shackles without effecting the approch angle
Were you also planning on ripping it all out when it doesn't work?
Seriously, if Moose & Redzook don't chime in hit them up with a PM. Those guys have done it and their rigs work, and I doubt they will tell you doing it without a chassis extension is a good idea.
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:04 am
by moose
I dont have a chassis extension !!!!!
with 33"s , i have about 80' approach angle !!!!
+ longer springs !!
+ diff moved forward , (only) , 2" !!!!!!
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:51 am
by ofr57
moose wrote:I dont have a chassis extension !!!!!
with 33"s , i have about 80' approach angle !!!!
+ longer springs !!
+ diff moved forward , (only) , 2" !!!!!!
ME likly
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:17 pm
by moose
oh yeah ...still using standard shock mounts !!
(but commodore rear shocks !!)
will take some pics for ya !!
(soon as my camera gets home !!)
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:00 pm
by moose
pics .....
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:07 pm
by sierrajim
Moose,
I think its time we throw your car in my spray booth and give it a birthday.
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:08 pm
by moose
on my way !!!!
(wishfully thinking !!!!
)
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:14 pm
by markil
Also have quite a good approach angle with my setup, not quite 90 deg but not far off.
Moose, how does your setup flex being SPUA? You got rears up front? I once measured you could run RUF with SR and it would give a good approach angle and get the diff a little forward. Seems like you basically have that
Mark.
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:28 pm
by moose
i have mazda springs on my heap !!
323/808 wagon !!!!
flexs pretty good , considering still standard shock mounts !!!
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:39 pm
by markil
How long are the 323/808 springs? I got 929? springs and they measure roughly 1120 centre to centre.
Need some pics of flex
Mark.
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:31 pm
by Damo
Got any pics of the wheel travel Moose?
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:35 pm
by moose
will get some 2moro !!
i,ll go to either Cheezy,s or 4PLAY & put it on the ramp !!!
just for you 2 perverts !!!!
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:08 pm
by Damo
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:45 pm
by markil
I want measurements too
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:13 pm
by alien
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:53 pm
by moose
spua !!! needed to find bigga rock !!
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:06 pm
by alien
mine has way more left in it (check front shackle angle) - youll see in the flex pic the block of wood on the jack has fallen over onto the diff... and cos we're jacking off the diff the rear isnt articulating at all there =)
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:25 pm
by sierrajim
moose wrote:on my way !!!!
(wishfully thinking !!!!
)
Wasn't joking. Did my black on in less than 2 hours
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:40 pm
by mud4b
alien wrote:check my UFO buildup thread for more pics, but mines SR with hilux fronts on 31's... approach angle is better than stock by far (its 62 degrees with 31s, was around 45 degrees stock with bar), obviously larger tyres will make the approach much more awesome =P
dude you need histeer....
