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strengthening std 40# steering

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:49 pm
by shorty_f0rty
I did a search but couldn't find anything specific. I did find this ( http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... teering+75 ) that mentioned 75 and 40 diffs are the same width. does this mean i could upgrade my common steering bits to 75 gear, using 40 tre's?

I was out at ormeau this morning and bent my relay rod (i think thats wot its called)..

yep its bent!
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caveman trying to straighten it
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how straight we managed to get it
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I think i remember MY45 sayin he used 75# steering links with a 5mm sleeve for the 40 tre's. If this is the case where would you go about getting the sleeve made for them? could you just get some 5mm wall pipe and tap that??

is there any other alternatives to whats listed above that you guys know of? I dont have a 60#ps setup so the standard 40# steering box exists so if I could strengthen all bits (tie rod,drag link) it would be good (the drag link has a slight bend too) but the relay rod is first priority i guess

thanks for your help

shorty.

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:13 pm
by ozlegacy
Thats impressive do you have power steering?

I have a slight bow in mine (stock 40 with factory PS) from hanging off the steering wheel (im 100kg) and forcing the feel to turn after smashing a CV and it only slightly bowed that bar, you must have hit somthing serious to do that?

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:16 pm
by bj42turbo
Same thing happened to Bad religian a couple of months ago hit a log whilest dropping into a bog hole, I must have dislodged it as I drove through first :oops: but I did have a spare for him

BJ

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:16 pm
by shorty_f0rty
heres a pic of the straightening process:
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heres a vid showing how the damage was inflicted. http://dopegoat.com/media/170406%20-%20 ... %20web.avi 35mb divx (thanks to dibbz online for the production work on this vid)

I posted this same query on 3rdrock4x4.com and I though Id share Daz's response.
Daz wrote:Replace with 75 will all bolt straight on except for where it connects to the steering relay box unless you have 60 series steering. You also need the king pin arms as well to do this. This will upgrade rod ends and all :idea:
I would like to do this but i think it'll cost me a bit initially. If i could get away with just doing the relay rod then I think my wallet might escape serious injury.

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:21 pm
by bj42turbo
Link no worky :cry:

BJ

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:54 pm
by Ultima RB

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:32 pm
by bj42turbo
no worky either

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:01 pm
by Ultima RB
Ok that server mustn't support direct linking.
Go here:
http://dopegoat.com/media/170406%20-%20Ormeau/
Then download the AVI.

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:57 pm
by bj42turbo
Ultima RB wrote:Ok that server mustn't support direct linking.
Go here:
http://dopegoat.com/media/170406%20-%20Ormeau/
Then download the AVI.
Cheers mate link worky :D
BJ

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:10 pm
by cloughy
Just weld a 20x20 or 25x25 chunk of angle to it, works great

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:17 pm
by shorty_f0rty
thanks for your feedback guys....

after discussing the requirements with my mechanic I am leaning towards just bracing the relay rod with some angle.. and yes I'm aware of the legalities of this (or rather the lack of). this will be a quick fix until I can arrange something stronger and more permenant

However, I am still keen in upgrading my front end components and have sourced some prices on new 75# relay and tie rods ($75 and $82 respectively).

Can anyone please elaborate on whats required for the sleeves required to help fit the 40# TRE's into the 75# relay rod? ie, what source material do you make them from, how do you make them and can you recommend somewhere (say a machining place or fab'ing place) that would have the best knowhow and equipment to make them?

Thanks again.

Shorty.

p.s. sorry about the links for the vids but each change in filename was a new vid going up.