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rear locker..

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:41 pm
by maty
can i put a locker from a 80 series front diff in to a hilux rear diff? the locker in question is an electric locker from a sahara.

the arb air locker rb23 is used in both the front landcruiser and the rear of the hilux- i think.

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:56 am
by Punchy
No

\the electric locker unit has a different housing to accomodate the shift lock solinoid and motor.

Actually ill clarify..

The centre it self is
/A slightly different to accomodate the electric motor
/B the Diff housing id aslo different to accomodate the engagement unit.
/C the left (sorry right if fitted to rear) axle also need to be replaced to allow the engagment gear to locate and slide on to the axle.....


So basically...If you want to stick in the factory lockers you have to swap out the whole live axle assembly...which is difficult for you as its the rear you want to fit and the centre your fitting is from the front....
Unless you want 4 wheel steer :P :P :roll:


If you get stuck...let me know as i know someone with an 80 who may want it..

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:50 pm
by 83 lux
Punchy wrote:If you get stuck...let me know as i know someone with an 80 who may want it..


were i no some one too. yet us no if you are going to sell it in the future
thanks

Scott

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:42 pm
by dumbdunce
one axle is different too for the locker; longer spline on the locking side. it's not impossible but it would be a headache. far easier to stick an air locker in and cover the cost by selling the toyota locker and let it be someone else's problem.

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:24 pm
by RUFF
The axles are the same.

The housing needs to be modified slightly and 2 holes need to be drilled and studs installed and the housing slightly clearenced.

The locker does not lock on the axle.


But to answer the original Question. Yes it will fit in the rear but it will not last due to it being a High pinion centre and reverse cut gears.

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:27 pm
by RUFF

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:57 pm
by dumbdunce
ruff is right about the axle/spline, and I don't know why I thought it was different. maybe the 80 rear elocker is different? maybe, like the airlocker, sometimes its necessary to trim the axle a little near the spline so the clutch (toyota)/extended carrier (arb) clear the axle. maybe I was just making stuff up :-/


http://www.toyotaoffroad.net/afertig/88/elocker.htm has a heap of helpy stuff.

flog it to someone with an 80/100. or maybe even a later 75 series with the little front diff.

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:10 pm
by RUFF
Im guessing he was enquering because there is one for sale in the For Sale section. If not and you have one you want to get rid of. I am interested as with a cable conversion it would be a good spare front for my rig.

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:10 am
by bj on roids
dumbdunce wrote:ruff is right about the axle/spline, and I don't know why I thought it was different. maybe the 80 rear elocker is different? maybe, like the airlocker, sometimes its necessary to trim the axle a little near the spline so the clutch (toyota)/extended carrier (arb) clear the axle. maybe I was just making stuff up :-/


http://www.toyotaoffroad.net/afertig/88/elocker.htm has a heap of helpy stuff.

flog it to someone with an 80/100. or maybe even a later 75 series with the little front diff.


i have had 3 or 4 airlockers and helped a mate fit a cable locker.

none needed an axle trimming or anything and they all had stock axles. the rear e-locker we fitted to the rear of a mates 40! standard 40 housing, all the gear was attached to the centre itself and essentially, bolted in, cable converted though!

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:01 am
by dumbdunce
I've installed about a dozen air lockers, i of them, a hilux rears, has required a very light rub on the grinder so it properly cleared. it's even in the air locker install instructions.