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Ever seen a rockhopper fail?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 3:43 pm
by skippy
Check out these pics......kinda kewl looking.
:rofl: :finger: :finger: :D

Time for a series three I reckon. :finger:


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Re: Ever seen a rockhopper fail?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:13 pm
by greg
skippy wrote:Time for a series three I reckon. :finger:


My series 3 is currently under investigation for a possible thrown tooth too... It is way too noisey currently :cry:

I gather you are no longer under warranty for your series 1 then?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:13 pm
by camskizook
FARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nasty dude.............farken nasty!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:20 pm
by N*A*M
i'm starting to hear of quite a few cases of grenaded rockhoppers

what are people's experiences with this?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:22 pm
by grimbo
My series 1 blew itself into lots of tiny pieces. Nice crunchy grindy noise. it looks like it came down to an installation problem, a cir clip wasn't installed. As the car is only used offroad and fairly irregularly at that the problem took a while to surface, about 2 months out of warranty.

So far the Series 3 is fine, fingers crossed but i may get it checked as it was installed at the same time as greg's

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:30 pm
by greg
grimbo wrote:So far the Series 3 is fine, fingers crossed but i may get it checked as it was installed at the same time as greg's


Is your's noisy? I was speaking to pete who said that when he changed from a series 1 to a 3 it was noticably quieter... mine seems to have gone the other way :cry:

I got the diff gears installed recently too though so i'm not sure which is the trouble maker - but either way - i have to wear ear plugs if i'm doing more than 80kms ph. :?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:57 pm
by skippy
mine S1 is well and truely out of warranty.

have already got the S3 ordered.


now to find time and $$ to work on suspension and i'm almost ready to come out and play again.

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:57 pm
by Liam
Is your's noisy? I was speaking to pete who said that when he changed from a series 1 to a 3 it was noticably quieter... mine seems to have gone the other way

Check your bearings asap. Theres no way it can be louder if everythings okay. Any questions give me a call.

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:07 pm
by grimbo
I don't think its noisy but what with my previous rattly doors, all the creaks and groans and the swampers who can tell? It seems to be ok no worse than the S1 was before its death throes.

I don't know how you can notice which is the noise maker with no roof, swampers, turbo whistle and blow off, short exhaust and a hot dog muffler :D

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:14 pm
by greg
grimbo wrote:I don't know how you can notice which is the noise maker with no roof, swampers, turbo whistle and blow off, short exhaust and a hot dog muffler :D


That's the issue - i'd like to be listening to the turbo whistle and blow off valve and the mighty exhaust and swampers wherling along the road but instead i'm deafened by the gears / driveline noise :cry:

Not to worry - hopefully we'll have some time to sort out if it's the gearbox/x-fercase/unis/diffs etc making all the racket some time this weekend :)

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:33 pm
by A1
:roll: I blew the series 1 i had in a1zook had it repaired under warranty ...........sold vehicle recently found out its blown again :!: ................it was just luck that although i gave him the standard case he also had a spare series 1 also out of a coily ..........this 1 is also rather noisy apparently :?

:D no longer my prob although i miss the little beast

Re: Ever seen a rockhopper fail?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:25 am
by mike
skippy wrote:Check out these pics......kinda kewl looking.
:rofl: :finger: :finger: :D

Time for a series three I reckon. :finger:

Amateur....
I'll post some pics up of mine when I get a chance...
Almost half the teeth are clean off and shaft was showing signs of strain
pretty much every gear in the box was affected by all the metal that was thrown around!

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:22 am
by camskizook
cripes.....how many failures have there been??? Seems like everyone has a story....im worried now that mine has just gone out of warranty :?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:27 am
by antt
yer, it certainly is a worry.....anyone NOT had one fall??????

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:31 pm
by skippy
my rockhopper has had 5 years of hard service. been in 3 different rigs. so i reckon it's done good. i'm not compaining that it faled. it's a good reason to upgrade.

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:32 pm
by greg
antt wrote:yer, it certainly is a worry.....anyone NOT had one fall??????


I've had a series 1 that is still going strong after 1 year of service (now in it's second car)...

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:53 pm
by mike
For Sale
Used S1 gearset.
with new reduced friction modification...
Comes complete with matching T-case also with reduced friction mods...

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:59 pm
by mike
Extensively modified...

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:02 pm
by mike
Acually it's extremely modified...

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:10 pm
by Singo17
mike wrote:Acually it's extremely modified...



:rofl: :rofl: mm I have told that the series one is not too reliable becuase the bits the make up the gear set aren't single sourced or made?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:21 pm
by Guy
Looks exactly like my 1st series one did .. "boom tinkle tinkle crunch" round a round about .. stopped dead until I pulled the tailshaft .. ..

Second one turned up eventually its been pretty good .... compared to my other gear nosies in my old gear box and rear diff howling like a banshee .. its still all good (now that I have a quiet gearbox again .. that rear diff has gotta go soon .. it cant keep making that much racket and hold together time for the toy diffs I think)

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:07 pm
by nelligen
Looking back through some old posts and found this thread. Are these welded or 1 piece billett gears or both and what brands, Original rockhopper?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:03 pm
by mike
nelligen wrote:Looking back through some old posts and found this thread. Are these welded or 1 piece billett gears or both and what brands, Original rockhopper?


Mine was the series 1 Rockhopper - not billet or welded held together with circlips...
The new series 3 is so far workin great but probably haven't punished it quite as badly yet, but I believe it hold up much better looked very well made.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:20 pm
by stumped
apparently the early series 1 rockhoppers were two piece... the newer ones are one piece. i've got some calmini 4:16's, they're one piece... no idea of the age tho

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:47 pm
by nelligen
stumped are your calmini billet gears quite and smooth , are you happy with them. I have ordered calmini 4.16 billet gears then i found this thread and it made me feel pissed off

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:32 am
by stumped
nelligen wrote:stumped are your calmini billet gears quite and smooth , are you happy with them. I have ordered calmini 4.16 billet gears then i found this thread and it made me feel pissed off


they're sooooooooo quiet, never heard a thing from them... maybe cos they're still in the shed tho :oops: :D

what ya annoyed 'bout? the S1's breakin? i reckon it'll depend a lot on ur drlvin style...

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:45 am
by nelligen
Stumped , Just looking at these photos makes me tremble

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:52 am
by greg
What are you concerned about Nelligen?

It's my guess that you think that the Calmini Gears you ordered will have the same fate as these rockhoppers we're talking about.

Don't worry - they are not the same gears. I wouldn't expect them to have the same outcome.

However, perhaps what you should be unhappy about is that you didn't buy a 6:1 or 8:1? What were you thinking man???!@!!!!? ;)

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:41 am
by nelligen
Greg hope your right I expect the billet gears to be better than the old style. I ordered 4.16 as there for my coily and the coily has 3.9 diffs & a little lower gearing at the gear box then the leafy models and should give me exactly what I want for 31" tyres as Iam not into rock crawling just general fire trails ect . Iam also involved with Johns (xtreems) built up of his 90 modell swb we will be using s3 or simular gears in this rig as he has bigger plans then me and likes to tackel the hardest terrain head on

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:52 am
by greg
Nelligen,

Cruise (or Cruz (a little woman's day humour :) )) over to this thread for a little reading about Rockhopper gears. Liam points out that products being sold in the US are definately not the same as the gears he (RH / BBO) are making/selling.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... Ahopper%2A

Cheers