Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Need some info...

Work has given me the option of a new 4x4 Ute!!

I have narrowed it down to a SR5 Hilux 4x4 or Nissan Navara Dual Cab 4x4 the rest are pox IMO.....

Has to be diesel and auto (i am a lazy)

I have driven the Nissan and was very impressed!! Had heaps of go and a nice smooth gbox.... Heaps of features blha blha but how are they off road??

So i am going to Toyota tomorrow to organize a test drive of the hilux but i really don’t like the look of it.
also I can get a bullbar, snorkel fiberglass canopy.. so I can use it on High country trips etc so it has to perform better off road then on road in my book!!

What do you guys think... and why i want to know good and bad points of both... I have read on the forum that the hilux diesels are dying do u guys why????

Thanks
Mick

mickrangie wrote:Need some info...

Work has given me the option of a new 4x4 Ute!!

I have narrowed it down to a SR5 Hilux 4x4 or Nissan Navara Dual Cab 4x4 the rest are pox IMO.....

Has to be diesel and auto (i am a lazy)

I have driven the Nissan and was very impressed!! Had heaps of go and a nice smooth gbox.... Heaps of features blha blha but how are they off road??

So i am going to Toyota tomorrow to organize a test drive of the hilux but i really don’t like the look of it.
also I can get a bullbar, snorkel fiberglass canopy.. so I can use it on High country trips etc so it has to perform better off road then on road in my book!!

What do you guys think... and why i want to know good and bad points of both... I have read on the forum that the hilux diesels are dying do u guys why????

Thanks
Mick

Chuck em both, they got IFS. U want a landcruiser ute or GU Ute, of which i would pick GU.

90% of this cars life is on road with 1 or 2 HC trips a year. I have a Rangie on 35 ET's for real wheeling!!

IFS FTW!! You're so against IFS F70 its a shame

The new Navara's look really good... if you can't get a GU that is

GU utes are way too big for what i need

had a look at the navara as well.. its built much stronger then the hilux..
has 3000kg towing capacity!! so does the new pathfinder..
pitty cant get them in the 2nd hand market for the 30k mark :(

I drove both the pathfinder and Navara and they were solid as hardly any body roll!!! The Navara is 300kg lighter then the PF so i would figure it would be better on fuel also....

Mick

well, in that cas i'd go the navara, much nicer on the eyes, hilux marketed too much like an F50 these days , and dont look as good. NI on specs but go the navara

asking how any new plastic 4by goes off road isnt a real question these days,but the navaras have a good following.

dat very true!!!

When i say off road i mean easy to med touring... the HC these days is like a freeway i could drive in my mates x5... well i have seen an x3 and a ml320 out there so yeah it's not tuff stuff just gravel roads with big speed humps and the old steep clumb and river xcrossing

Mick

If it's down to the two, i'd say Navara definately

I'm just a little confused though, your work is paying for this thing and you said:

also I can get a bullbar, snorkel fiberglass canopy.. so I can use it on High country trips etc so it has to perform better off road then on road in my book!!

Yet you dismissed the GU Patrol, which imho is the only true 4wd ute still available new in oz, because of size and fuel consumption:

The Navara is 300kg lighter then the PF so i would figure it would be better on fuel also....

WGAF, work's paying for it, and the fuel!

Go the 'trol!!!

on looks alone id go for the navara, but i am nissan biased.


I dont know whos in charge of the looks department at toyota, but i cant think of a good looking vehicle that they manufacture.........

Like i said I already Have 'Real 4x4" this one is 90% road with the odd trip to the HC etc... I dont need / want a 2nd live axle 4x4 for touring.... and it wont fit in my parking space at work anyway either way i need a 4 door car as i have a wife, a large dog and more then 1 mate and IMO i have seen too many dogs thrown from the back of utes so I will NOT put my dog in the tray!!

I've spent a bit of time in the Hilux and its a great truck that is built well. The suspension is stiff though which is great for pounding around, but imho still a bit too stiff.

Slunnie wrote:I've spent a bit of time in the Hilux and its a great truck that is built well. The suspension is stiff though which is great for pounding around, but imho still a bit too stiff.

Yeah i heard that too.... the Nissan was stiff but comfy I'll see how i go morrow when i drive the ota

Mick

there have been reports of lux utes having issues with trays hitting cabs. theres only one way that happens... bending.

IMHO, they are both ok, but you should go drive them both, see which you fit in best, it maybe a 1 horse race

Brother in law has a new navi and it is great - brand new - no probs to report so far 10,000km


Tom

I was really impressed on how well it drove!! Coming from a D2 with ACE my stdards are high for comfort!!!

i have seen too many dogs thrown from the back of utes so I will NOT put my dog in the tray!!

probably the main reason I have the crew cab....
and the dog lets me know how put out she is with those looks when she has to ride in the tray of the missus' GU instead....

I can't believe you would even consider the hilux.

i would go the Hilux, i know a few people with navaras breaking stuff here, there, everywhere. but when it comes down to it go the GU ute

Just got back from Toyota and the auto box is CRAP compared to the nissan it's sluggish over 80kmh and they are HUGE bigger then a Landcruser!! So i guess it's the nissan!!

BTW rrp on the Hilux is a few my k then the nissan with bullbar, snorkel, canopy and dual batt!!

looks like i am going to get some Nissan on me

Mick

bogged wrote:there have been reports of lux utes having issues with trays hitting cabs. theres only one way that happens... bending.

IMHO, they are both ok, but you should go drive them both, see which you fit in best, it maybe a 1 horse race

Flexing is the term i think, and AFAIK all 4wd's are designed to do a certain amount of flexing.

what about a rodeo they dont look to bad

muppet_man67 wrote:what about a rodeo they dont look to bad

yeah look ok but very plain inside and
# Power: 96kW @ 3800rpm
294Nm @ 2400 rpm (automatic)

that’s PUS!!

and all Holden’s are

Holden found the problem and circled it!!!

Shadow wrote:

bogged wrote:there have been reports of lux utes having issues with trays hitting cabs. theres only one way that happens... bending.

IMHO, they are both ok, but you should go drive them both, see which you fit in best, it maybe a 1 horse race

Flexing is the term i think, and AFAIK all 4wd's are designed to do a certain amount of flexing.

While i agree, looking at the distance between cab and tray, thats called BENDING!

Well my bro has a hilux and whilst he hasnt done any hardcore 4wding, just sand driving and a gravel etc, its a very good ute to ride in. I didnt find it uncomfortable at all (compared to my 60 series its a lounge-chair)

He hasnt had any problems with the tray hitting the cab, but then he hasnt had it on a flex ramp. He hasnt had any problems with it to date and its over 6 months old. Hes got the V6 tho.

bogged wrote:

Shadow wrote:

bogged wrote:there have been reports of lux utes having issues with trays hitting cabs. theres only one way that happens... bending.

IMHO, they are both ok, but you should go drive them both, see which you fit in best, it maybe a 1 horse race

Flexing is the term i think, and AFAIK all 4wd's are designed to do a certain amount of flexing.

While i agree, looking at the distance between cab and tray, thats called BENDING!

When i'm offroad sumtimes the Rag joint on the steering hits the body in the engine bay ... got more flex in the body than in the springs