Outer Limits 4x4 Board

has anyone used chains in mud bush etc how well do thay work

we used a set on a mates old 2wd hilux ute around the paddock.. got us out of a few situations... ripped the hell out of the ground.

I dont think you would be too popular if found using them up in the bush on tracks.

I used to use em b4 I got a second set of wheels with muddies. Grip is great. Actually increase the effective diameter of your tyres abit too. Put em on b4 you get in the mud 'cos otherwise you'll regret it. Take an old milk crate to put em in after and high presssure wash em at Car-lovers. PRACTISE fitting em at home. I believe, used responsibly, they only rip up tracks as much as idiots with lesser tyres bagging em up. Overall well worth it. You can even use em in the snow

thanks ill try and get a set

you shouldn't be using chains on normal tracks. All you will succeed in doing is destroying the tracks when you churn them up. Ever heard of tread Lightly. People driving with chains on tracks has successfully closed a few areas around Bright that I know of. By some decent tyres and a winch if you really need to get up a track that you think chains will help on or better yet maybe don't drive on it

grimbo wrote:you shouldn't be using chains on normal tracks. All you will succeed in doing is destroying the tracks when you churn them up. Ever heard of tread Lightly. People driving with chains on tracks has successfully closed a few areas around Bright that I know of. By some decent tyres and a winch if you really need to get up a track that you think chains will help on or better yet maybe don't drive on it

And get a f**ken' brain while your at it.

If your gunna use chains you night at well take a trailer load of crushed rock or bags of lime or quick-set concrete to help combat mud and bogholes.

Stick to the tracks you can handle untill such time you've modified your truck to handle harder ones, like the rest of us have!

and how do u know im driving on public tracks as i said mud and bush some one may be jumping the gun here

GQ Bear wrote:

grimbo wrote:you shouldn't be using chains on normal tracks. All you will succeed in doing is destroying the tracks when you churn them up. Ever heard of tread Lightly. People driving with chains on tracks has successfully closed a few areas around Bright that I know of. By some decent tyres and a winch if you really need to get up a track that you think chains will help on or better yet maybe don't drive on it

And get a f**ken' brain while your at it.

If your gunna use chains you night at well take a trailer load of crushed rock or bags of lime or quick-set concrete to help combat mud and bogholes.

Stick to the tracks you can handle untill such time you've modified your truck to handle harder ones, like the rest of us have!

would it no be a good idea to ask where these r going to be used GQ bear before u abuse peaple and this is why when u r looking for some where to drive u find all the private land locked up because we do not need someone else telling us what we can do with our land

As Andrew said. If used properly they can be a great benerfit.
Only thing is I think that you should be trying idle most places as oppessed to the highlysetup high HP truck with pedes using all 300hp.

turps wrote:As Andrew said. If used properly they can be a great benerfit.
Only thing is I think that you should be trying idle most places as oppessed to the highlysetup high HP truck with pedes using all 300hp.

this is what i was thinking

ratboy wrote:

GQ Bear wrote:

grimbo wrote:you shouldn't be using chains on normal tracks. All you will succeed in doing is destroying the tracks when you churn them up. Ever heard of tread Lightly. People driving with chains on tracks has successfully closed a few areas around Bright that I know of. By some decent tyres and a winch if you really need to get up a track that you think chains will help on or better yet maybe don't drive on it

And get a f**ken' brain while your at it.

If your gunna use chains you night at well take a trailer load of crushed rock or bags of lime or quick-set concrete to help combat mud and bogholes.

Stick to the tracks you can handle untill such time you've modified your truck to handle harder ones, like the rest of us have!

would it no be a good idea to ask where these r going to be used GQ bear before u abuse peaple and this is why when u r looking for some where to drive u find all the private land locked up because we do not need someone else telling us what we can do with our land

Fair enough!!

Please excuse me, it just pi*ses me off when i see or hear of people doing irresponsible things in the bush which leads to track closures, grading of tracks, etc.

I reckon you'll want to secure 'em pretty well though and tie up any lose ends on the adjusters. Can make a mess of your panels at high speeds.

Might be a good way of cutting a few new tracks on your property

its only going to be used to get out of one gully when loaded with wood if needed i would not risk having a guard ripped of by a chaine when not needed to use them
and while we r on people not doing the right thing when a gate it locked it means stay out not push your car over it or around it or cut the lock its private land how would u like me to drive a truck through your frount yard
i bleve most people here would not do it but this is for the few that do it

I reckon you'd be better off lowering tyre pressures. Chains in my experience are only good for one thing driving on a iced over surface which is what they are designed for. i have been on many trips with cars with chains on and all they do is cause the car to dig down and get stuck whilst I just idle past with low trye pressures.

On a snow trip last year the Cruiser in front of me was double diff locked and chains on all 4 tyres. All he did was drive for a little bit then sink to his diffs. i would then idle past in my unlocked GQ on 33 x 10 MTs at about 15psi and pull him out. Repeat this all through the day. Never did his chains get him further than me.

Also have seen people use them in mud on priivate property and again all it did was get them really stuck.

I REPEAT - USED RESPONSIBLY. I reckon most Vics on here wouldve been up the old Andersons Tk at Gembrook. How many times have I been up there watching F -Wits who think all you have to do is buy some Pedes and you'll get up anything. I put my chains on and with not much more than idle got up 1st go. Mind you now I've got muddies, locker etc the chains stay home. Any one wanna buy them?????????

chains are great on icy bitumen bust up the ice and bite on the hard ground seen them used in mud with limmited sucsess. where skinny tyres with out chains worked well

grimbo wrote:I reckon you'd be better off lowering tyre pressures. Chains in my experience are only good for one thing driving on a iced over surface which is what they are designed for. i have been on many trips with cars with chains on and all they do is cause the car to dig down and get stuck whilst I just idle past with low trye pressures.

On a snow trip last year the Cruiser in front of me was double diff locked and chains on all 4 tyres. All he did was drive for a little bit then sink to his diffs. i would then idle past in my unlocked GQ on 33 x 10 MTs at about 15psi and pull him out. Repeat this all through the day. Never did his chains get him further than me.

Also have seen people use them in mud on priivate property and again all it did was get them really stuck.

yay more people realising chains are shit on the snow. can't wait for Mt Skene this winter

I have used chains to great sucess on paddock bashers (some very muddy gates etc) that a 2wd would never have got through..

Options were limited at that time ... They chewed shit outa the ground and the guards though .. (were a bit to big)

Ratboy - I have used chains precisely for the same purpose. Towing a trailer load of wood up a steep clay track. They worked just fine and did not rip up the track.

Used properly they are a valuable part of an offroad arsenal - in snow, on ice, on wet clay and wet grass. They won't cut up a track any more than aggressive mud tyres such as the Simex. The trick with both is not to plant your foot, spinning your wheels needlessly throwing mud everywhere and digging a great hole. If you lose traction back off the throttle and often you will get going again. (I am amazed at how few people do this and how often it does work.) If it doesn't work back off and try a different line. The days of spinning your tyres to clear the tread have, or should have, disappeared with the old 7.50 X 16 MTs.

And if you are travelling on ATs (to save your muddies for real offroad work) a set of chains in the back is a cheap insurance policy.