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Nuther one stuffed
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 6:23 am
by Le0n
Broken another lefthand ( exhaust side ) engine mount.
Getting a bit pissed at having to charge at the tough bits to get through.
Love to have lockers and low low range transfere.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:24 am
by *BESTY*
it's just 'cause the 1.6 is soooo 'torquey'
I went through a few of them too !!
I ended up welding a small length of chain to either side of the engine mounts, so if it broke another one, the engine wouldn't try and do backflips under acceleration !!
I tried the chain idea after seeing it on other peoples cars, but fencing wire was always carried in my toolbox as a make-shift one (also works really well at keeping things where they should be !
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:04 am
by SimplyPV
so is breaking engine mounts another problem for rockys? an how do u break em?
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:32 am
by Ferwoaza
Mine needed doing when I bought the car and I've just had to replace it again. So it lasted around 60,000k's and some of that was some serious offroading.
Weld the front Leon, slows you down and stops so much breakage happening
I broke my last one doing around 6000rpm on a tight turn up hill in 1st low, also did the CV
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:41 am
by Toyhatsu
One motor mount and one transmission mount...just wheeling
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:01 am
by robbie
marco did a left hand engine mount when he was snatching someone out.. that someone forgot to put it in gear will marco was going flat stick trying to yank dead weight out of a hole..
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:10 pm
by Le0n
Getting one from Auto one Blacktown. $85.00. Will fit it tomorrow arvo.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 4:01 pm
by *BESTY*
Are you gonna put a length of chain in ??
It does help stop breakages when you're off road !
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 4:10 pm
by Ferwoaza
Where, how, what are you supposed to weld?? Details man!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 4:18 pm
by *BESTY*
Ferwoaza wrote:Where, how, what are you supposed to weld?? Details man!!
On either sides of the engine mount, get a piece of quality chain that will be long enough to loosely fit to each side with enough length to be welded onto the actual mount !
put a nut and bolt through the link in the chain and weld the bolts to either side of the mounts.
Don't do it so they are tight, but loose enough that if you do break a mount, you don't twist the engine off the other mount and/or destroy t-case mounts.
Sorry I don't have any pics.....I may have one of some fencing wire around my engine mount (2nd one I broke)....that worked well !!...Kept everythihng intact until the engine swap !!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 6:36 pm
by moose
or same as wat the nurse said
or just bolt it to a spare braket mount or similar , higher up the motor !!!
then loop it around your chassis & bolt it !!!
NO welding required !!!!!
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:08 am
by Whistler
When I bought my car, the mechanical check indicated a broken left-side engine mount, but the mechanic didn't seem to think it was a big immediate issue (he mentioned that it was just a rubber bushing) so I haven't fixed it yet.
1. Should I fix it soon? Will leaving it lead to bigger problems
2. What causes it to break
Some of you have indicated that it's from over stressing the engine.
3. What effect is the broken mount currently having on my Feroza
Shuddering
Lack of power
Sorry if these questions sound brainless, but I was born without mechanical ability (hereditary).
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:11 am
by robbie
fark me I love that chick in your avatar..
back to the thread.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:24 am
by *BESTY*
Whistler wrote:When I bought my car, the mechanical check indicated a broken left-side engine mount, but the mechanic didn't seem to think it was a big immediate issue (he mentioned that it was just a rubber bushing) so I haven't fixed it yet.
1. Should I fix it soon? Will leaving it lead to bigger problems
2. What causes it to break
Some of you have indicated that it's from over stressing the engine.
3. What effect is the broken mount currently having on my Feroza
Shuddering
Lack of power
Sorry if these questions sound brainless, but I was born without mechanical ability (hereditary).
Find a replacement one from a wreckers and fit it whenever you get it. Not having one increses the risks of twisting your other engine mounts and also your t-case mounts....causing potential problems with tailshafts, cracked housings, potential to destroy radiator with engine fan.....etc !
If you go offroad a lot, then fix it sooner...not later.
Problems only start when the rev's are getting over the 5500-6500 redline, it causes more 'torquing' of the engine.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:32 am
by Whistler
Geez, thanks Besty.
BTW Robbie, she's a model for Wicked Weasel swimwear (an Aussie company), just go to:
http://www.wickedweasel.com
There's plenty more where she came from.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:47 am
by Toyhatsu
This is what happens if you don't fix that broken engine mount. The transmission mount broke out on the trail. The engine and transmission would rooster to the right and throw everything out of alignment when I tried to drive it. I used a tie down from the end of the transfer case to the frame to keep eveythind in line. It got me the 70+ miles home...change that engine mount.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:17 pm
by Le0n
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:08 pm
by Ferwoaza
That's cause he actually slows down when he sees mud
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:13 pm
by r_santos
Ferwoaza wrote:That's cause he actually slows down when he sees mud
There may be some truth in this Leon. Ive seen the way you 4wdrive, got to slowdown a bit dude.
Have you tried getting hold of an original Daihatsu engine mount? Dont know if they are stronger than after market ones (probably not) but they are actually not that expensive. I paid $66. for one about two months ago.
Makes me cringe at the thought that I drove the truck for over four years and did not even check the engine mounts. Could be the reason why I needed a transmission overhaul.
Cheers,
Rod
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:12 am
by murcod
Leon, it may be possible to make a stronger mount without too much difficulty. I haven't check out the LHS engine mount to see exactly what it looks like, but I've used the mounts off 6 cylinder Cortinas before in engine swaps. They are a cylindrical block of rubber with a bolt (around 8mm diam) coming out either end. They are also available in Nolathane.
If you go into a spare parts place that has engine mounts out accessible and have a rummage you'll probably find something stronger that can be easily adapted.
(The downside will be more vibration transmitted through to the cabin)
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:37 am
by Le0n
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:21 am
by Toyhatsu
(The downside will be more vibration transmitted through to the cabin)
David,
I welded the transmission and engine mounts after I got home and talk about transmitted vibrations! Had to drive this way for about a month till I got a engine mount from the salvage yard and a new transmission mount. I don't mind too much of a rough ride but this shook the whole truck while driving.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:06 pm
by murcod
I know what you mean. Nolathane (polyurethane) mounts are good, but it's amazing how much extra vibration they will transmit. But, if you're breaking the factory mounts regularly it could be worth looking into.