Outer Limits 4x4 Board

i no this is a Q that has prob been asked a 1000 times i have a 87mod sierra soa 31s 2" longer shakles pro comp shocks ect and sick of falling on my side or about to fall over i got a pair of hilux diffs 4 $200 and they have 2 go in so wats involved ie pirches measurements tail sharts brackes steering many thanks

The place to look is at www.pirate4x4.com/forum go to the zuk section at the top of the page they have a fact sheet with everything you will need to know.

wezook wrote:i no this is a Q that has prob been asked a 1000 times i have a 87mod sierra soa 31s 2" longer shakles pro comp shocks ect and sick of falling on my side or about to fall over i got a pair of hilux diffs 4 $200 and they have 2 go in so wats involved ie pirches measurements tail sharts brackes steering many thanks

Also look at lengthening your WB and upgrading your tyres at the same time. While not specificaly nessasary, if your going to the trouble of fitting new diffs, get the WB out to keep it stable in all dirrections. The bigger tyres will be needed to offfsetthe decrease of diff clearence plus you can take advantage of the increase strength. I think i will be the only zook in Newy still running match stick axles soon. Heres to many more happy cv shattering moments.
Layto....

I didnt have the skills or tools do it so I took mine to Overkill. Very good price alot cheaper than I thought (atleast half what I was quoted locally) and the quality was great. Should have done it first instead of converting to w/t diffs with all the goodies, very happy with it.
Nik

NIK wrote:I didnt have the skills or tools do it so I took mine to Overkill. Very good price alot cheaper than I thought (atleast half what I was quoted locally) and the quality was great. Should have done it first instead of converting to w/t diffs with all the goodies, very happy with it.
Nik

Have you got any current shot's of your rig? I think I remember seeing on overklls site.

hmm a local zuk?

So Nik this is the LWB in the cream colour ? You got a internal cage built aswell didnt ya ?


looked pretty cool ( your Rig )



Dan

This one?



nic

that looks like nics and if i find a photo ill put one up of wezook

wezook

thanks for all the oppinions but no one has given me any info as 4 niks zook it is sweet but i dont agree the price was fair i want 2 do most of the work my self couse in the end we by zooks couse there cheep

Tailshafts i think u can do a hilux hybrid but prob best to work out at the end. same as shock placement and choice.

Do you want to keep leafs or coils? with leaves u can either convert and use lux springs all round or use the zook springs. I believe u have to go SPOA with the lux diffs also.

Nic

DeWsE wrote:The place to look is at www.pirate4x4.com/forum go to the zuk section at the top of the page they have a fact sheet with everything you will need to know.

Did you look here at all???? Or provide a bit more info on what you want. Links and coils or leaves or air shocks ETC.
Layto....

yes i did look at the pirate site and the only seem 2 hav info on wt mines a nt wich u no is totaly different i do plan 2 ues zook leaves with rears up front and i also have new procomp shocks from the spring over that just got dun(WAST) plan 2 hav lux diffs soa do front spring hangers hav 2 moved 2 outside chass if so mos well do shackle reverse

wezook wrote:yes i did look at the pirate site and the only seem 2 hav info on wt mines a nt wich u no is totaly different i do plan 2 ues zook leaves with rears up front and i also have new procomp shocks from the spring over that just got dun(WAST) plan 2 hav lux diffs soa do front spring hangers hav 2 moved 2 outside chass if so mos well do shackle reverse

Unless you are trying this on a phone keypad to send as an SMS please take a moment to spell check and type at least mostly whole words

wezook wrote:yes i did look at the pirate site and the only seem 2 hav info on wt mines a nt wich u no is totaly different i do plan 2 ues zook leaves with rears up front and i also have new procomp shocks from the spring over that just got dun(WAST) plan 2 hav lux diffs soa do front spring hangers hav 2 moved 2 outside chass if so mos well do shackle reverse

Nt tottaly different fron WT, not really. Sure the spring's are outboard in a WT, but tottally different????? Rears up front setup is the same with any axle, search on RUF and you will get a heap of threads. Would explain more but im sposed to be doing a uni assignment due tomorrow.
Layto....

Yeah what layto said, but more in depth..

A narrow track has the spring perches mounted in line with the chassis, where as a wide truck has them mounted slighting further apart out from the chassis.

This will not matter with your toy conversion because toy diffs are further apart anyway.. So you will need to look at moving the mounts out the same width as the front diff. You can not move the mounts in on the front diff because the pumpkin is in the way. (hehe I said pump). I would suggest you need to make a new cross/chassis extension to the front anyway if you are planning to RUF so the mounts shouldn’t be much of and issue.

The rear how ever is slightly different. Because the pumpkin is centred you can change either the mounts on the chassis to suit the diff OR change the mounts on the diff to suit the chassis mounts… So I’m guess you want to know the difference. If you change it to suit the chassis, the mounts on the diff will be closer. This means that you will get more leverage against the spring which equals more flex.

I would also recommend putting some longer springs in when you are doing the swap. You will get more flex, better ride and more wheel base.

Then you need to look at steering. Either cross over or high steer. You can buy this pre-made or make it yourself using two arms, one welded upside down on the other (check out your mates).

Driveshaft, as Nick said the rear should be a hybrid of a toy double carden joint. The Uni’s should be about the same size. The NT though have a smaller flange. Go get yourself some WT flanges for the TCASE as the spline on the TCASE are the same I think.

You need new longer brake lines as well

Now start shopping and get all the parts in front of you and start posting pictures of the swap.

And who said I don't ever post tech

DeWsE wrote:

Driveshaft, as Nick said the rear should be a hybrid of a toy double carden joint. The Uni’s should be about the same size. The NT though have a smaller flange. Go get yourself some WT flanges for the TCASE as the spline on the TCASE are the same I think.

i wouldnt run a double carden joint, just a hilux shaft with single uni's

thanks DeWse for your info great help geting all my bits underway and for the person how pointed out my spelliing SORRY this is a great site do we really need people to flog other people about there disabilities ill try to correct my spelling in the future thanks for all your comments

Your spelling makes your posts more difficult to read, easier to read posts will get more responses (I should have pointed that out), and I dislike lazy SMS style writing when you have a full keyboard in front of you. (personal preference on that I guess).

download the google toolbar, it has a spell checker built into it

love_mud wrote:Your spelling makes your posts more difficult to read, easier to read posts will get more responses (I should have pointed that out), and I dislike lazy SMS style writing when you have a full keyboard in front of you. (personal preference on that I guess).

download the google toolbar, it has a spell checker built into it

Better yet you can type stuff in word then cut and paste...... Works good on large posts

So anyway what have you decided to do?

I am goinng ahead with the lux diff swop been talking to a engineering shop and got some more ideas. All under way in the next two to three weeks post some pics when done.

Post as you go would be awesome.

Also remember that the lux springs and pearches are 1/5 inch bigger then zuks

ill try to post as much as i can but i start work at 5am and nock off at 6pm so i dont get as much time as id like.