Outer Limits 4x4 Board

I am looking at doing an overkill engineering 5 link front in my 80.
Does anyone know how these handle on road?
And how they will work with a 6" suspension lift?

Sorry we do not make them anymore.We were having too many issues in the way they drove onroad.The weight of the vehicle was just too great and it didn't matter what bushes or joints we used they just wouldn't last.
SAM

ohhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooooo
thats hurt me
now i have to re decide what i can do
thanks for the heads up sam

For those that are after more flex outa there 80 or 100 there is another option besides a five link.Glen from Dobbin Engineering makes a cross link setup for the front which is very similar to Chads Hilux.
Gives double the amount of flex without upsetting the road driving.
Pics don't work at the moment when they come back up i'll post some
SAM

I too would be very interested in this as I want more flex out of the front.

TEAM KNECK wrote:For those that are after more flex outa there 80 or 100 there is another option besides a five link.Glen from Dobbin Engineering makes a cross link setup for the front which is very similar to Chads Hilux.
Gives double the amount of flex without upsetting the road driving.
Pics don't work at the moment when they come back up i'll post some
SAM

id be interested to see how this works..

crankycruiser wrote:id be interested to see how this works..

Hey Cranky, Firstly let me just say that I've been keeping up with your vehicles changes and its a machine. I think you have done a great job!

I was wondering about your front conversion to having the arms flipped over the top of the differential. I was thinking about if it was possible to make this conversion using plates, just like the castor adjustment plates on lifted 80's, instead of the welding of brackets that you have made?

Do you think this would create too much sideways movement?

It makes sense that this would change the suspension (smoother) and the steering as the diff would stay much more central/direct. Has it increase downward travel?

Thanks

TEAM KNECK wrote:For those that are after more flex outa there 80 or 100 there is another option besides a five link.Glen from Dobbin Engineering makes a cross link setup for the front which is very similar to Chads Hilux.
Gives double the amount of flex without upsetting the road driving.
Pics don't work at the moment when they come back up i'll post some
SAM

Here are some pics with permision!!!!
I have been busting to post theses pics!!

This setup was the test rig for dobbins X link and yes it works well!
The X link can be fitted to a standard patrol or cruser .
the X link is the replacement for the 5 link and much easyer to fit.

if you need more pics let me know.

Chad

professor wrote:

TEAM KNECK wrote:For those that are after more flex outa there 80 or 100 there is another option besides a five link.Glen from Dobbin Engineering makes a cross link setup for the front which is very similar to Chads Hilux.
Gives double the amount of flex without upsetting the road driving.
Pics don't work at the moment when they come back up i'll post some
SAM

Here are some pics with permision!!!!
I have been busting to post theses pics!!

This setup was the test rig for dobbins X link and yes it works well!
The X link can be fitted to a standard patrol or cruser .
the X link is the replacement for the 5 link and much easyer to fit.

if you need more pics let me know.

Chad

i dont see anything revolutionary there

professor wrote:

TEAM KNECK wrote:For those that are after more flex outa there 80 or 100 there is another option besides a five link.Glen from Dobbin Engineering makes a cross link setup for the front which is very similar to Chads Hilux.
Gives double the amount of flex without upsetting the road driving.
Pics don't work at the moment when they come back up i'll post some
SAM

Here are some pics with permision!!!!
I have been busting to post theses pics!!

This setup was the test rig for dobbins X link and yes it works well!
The X link can be fitted to a standard patrol or cruser .
the X link is the replacement for the 5 link and much easyer to fit.

if you need more pics let me know.

Chad

Hrmm have i got my REAL dark glasses on again?>??????

professor wrote:

TEAM KNECK wrote:For those that are after more flex outa there 80 or 100 there is another option besides a five link.Glen from Dobbin Engineering makes a cross link setup for the front which is very similar to Chads Hilux.
Gives double the amount of flex without upsetting the road driving.
Pics don't work at the moment when they come back up i'll post some
SAM

Here are some pics with permision!!!!
I have been busting to post theses pics!!

This setup was the test rig for dobbins X link and yes it works well!
The X link can be fitted to a standard patrol or cruser .
the X link is the replacement for the 5 link and much easyer to fit.

if you need more pics let me know.

Chad

photos didnt work can you email some to me?

can you post them using a host like http://www.photobucket.com then they work
because if you email them know one gets to see them or if you couldnt be bothered with getting a host pm me for my email and you can send them and ill do it!!!

any pics working yet or not???

Photos, we want photos and more details....

How Much?

Can someone please email me a pic PLEEEEEASE to

fwdstuff@bigpond.com

EDIT
This is a pic of Chad's (Professor) Rig I found.
http://www.ozrockcrawlers.com/CHAD_truck.html
http://www.tuffbuggies.com/gallery/v/En ... 9d185c6ddf
I better find some longer shocks

How well does this "x link" handle on road?
Are there any drawbacks?
Can you do this with a 3 inch lift?

Cheers
Shane

4WD Stuff wrote:How Much?

Can someone please email me a pic PLEEEEEASE to

shanecrowther@bigpond.com

EDIT
This is a pic of Chad's (Professor) Rig I found.
http://www.ozrockcrawlers.com/CHAD_truck.html
http://www.tuffbuggies.com/gallery/v/En ... 9d185c6ddf
I better find some longer shocks

How well does this "x link" handle on road?
Are there any drawbacks?
Can you do this with a 3 inch lift?

Cheers
Shane

Price:
call dobbin($850+gst+fitting+engineers report)
Fitting:
contact me
Handling on road:
great for a comp car(produces a little more body role than standard 3 link)
better than a frame for people that want linked steer not full hidro.
Draw backs:
I cant extend my rams fully(still has panard diff moves sidways)
you loose a little road stability(better flex though)
3" lift:hell yeah 2" 3" 4" we can set the caster in the fitting process.

If you need more info or you want to have a look or a drive of my rig this can be arranged.

Chad

Any one got any pics of this set up.. as im in tassie and its a lil hard for me to just pop round to check it out

be nice to see a pic of how it works rather than poser pics

wheres the link positions etc

If I keep my swaybar on the front for road travelling, do you think it would be quite safe towing a caravan? Not too much body roll.

Could there be a bit of wander under heavy braking as there could be a little less forward stiffness in the front castor bush

I phoned today and they will sell the setup in a kit which apparantly is reasonably easy to bolt up and weld on.

Thanks for the pics professor

I think I will order myself a kit.
Shane

4WD Stuff wrote:If I keep my swaybar on the front for road travelling, do you think it would be quite safe towing a caravan? Not too much body roll.

Could there be a bit of wander under heavy braking as there could be a little less forward stiffness in the front castor bush

I phoned today and they will sell the setup in a kit which apparantly is reasonably easy to bolt up and weld on.

Thanks for the pics professor

I think I will order myself a kit.
Shane

There is no change under breaking. as for the sway bars that would probably cancel any issues of body role.

This is the best system by far to retain the function of the 3 link and still get great flex.

Chad

PICTURES

From what I can make out from the pics ( I have not seen it in person)

It is a bar that goes across the front left castor bush to the front right castor bush. This is done after you cut off the front part of your castor housing both sides so the front castor bushes are now independant to the rear castor bushes. This front bar is the only thing supporting your front castor bushes so this new gadget runs independently to the rear castor bushes. This bar across the front is bolted to a bracket welded to the ((EDIT Axle housing)) in the centre between the 2 front castor bushes. This gives it its strength.
So this thing allows the front castor bush to go up and down without allowing the diff to roll forwards(Down) or backwards(up).
Moving the centre bolt up and down would adjust your castor, to a point.

Traditionally all the binding is through the castor bushes. This eliminates this all together which allows it to flex.

Does this sound right professor?


Shane
4wd stuff

4WD Stuff wrote:From what I can make out from the pics ( I have not seen it in person)

It is a bar that goes across the front left castor bush to the front right castor bush. This is done after you cut off the front part of your castor housing both sides so the front castor bushes are now independant to the rear castor bushes. This front bar is the only thing supporting your front castor bushes so this new gadget runs independently to the rear castor bushes. This bar across the front is bolted to a bracket welded to the chassis(diff housing)This is the piviot point in the centre between the 2 front castor bushes. This gives it its strength.
So this thing allows the front castor bush to go up and down without allowing the diff to roll forwards(Down) or backwards(up).
Moving the centre bolt up and down would adjust your castor, to a point.

Traditionally all the binding is through the castor bushes. This eliminates this all together which allows it to flex.

Does this sound right professor?


Shane
4wd stuff

In a round about way.

as for pics i will have access to a web site soon where all my pics are
I will post a link as soon as it is setup.

Chad

4WD Stuff wrote: This bar across the front is bolted to a bracket welded to the chassis in the centre between the 2 front castor bushes. This gives it its strength.
So this thing allows the front castor bush to go up and down without allowing the diff to roll forwards(Down) or backwards(up).

Shane
4wd stuff

wouldnt this bar be welded to the diff to stop it rolling?

Yeah yeah it's the axle housing, hopefully you knew what I meant

ahh now i get it!!!

It sounds pritty simple

c`mon tax time

hmmmmm how about some of those coil over shocks too

by the way chad`s hilux looks awesome

could u engineer this in queensland?
and also could this be made so that the front bushes are pinned for on road use ?

The more i look at it the more simple it is!!!

I reckon I can eel the grinder comin out again shortly!!!