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Ok i'm thinking of getting an old rangie, price range up to about 3 grand. nothing much needed for registration, and on gas, so whatever years fit in there.

i love the 2 door shape.

anyway, my question is, how will it cope with towing a trailer, with a soft top 40 series on it about 1000k's. as i'm probably going to retire my 40 to weekend duties only.

am i asking too much from the old rovers? or will they cope?

Edit: I can't read

Ive towed my ute (1900kgs + trailer) with times with Dads 110 County (same 3.5 ect with 5 speed) and it wasnt to bad. A bit painfull and gutless but it did it fairly well.

I've also towed a smashed falcon with my Stage 1 (3.5 & 4speed) and that towed it quite well, but drum breaks and trailers are scarey.. .

RR fitted with supercharged 4lts tow really well though

For that price, you will probably looking at either late 2 door / early 4 door. Try for an early 4, they have the cabed hi comp 3.5, so they have a bit more power. The 4 speed manuals are strong and can be fitted with lower transfer gears to help the towing ability. Autos - I'll leave to someone else, but the will likely be the TF727? Strong but power sucking...

They will do it OK.

Dave.

1000 KILOMETRES!!!

Yea it'll do it but if you buy a 3.5 i hope your farking patient cause hills become mountains in a 3.5 and thats before you hook the trailer on!

Why not just use a rangie for both? Much comfier than riding a wild kangaroo! bounce bang CRASH

DaveS3 wrote:I've also towed a smashed falcon with my Stage 1 (3.5 & 4speed) and that towed it quite well, but drum breaks and trailers are scarey.. .

How is it scary?

(Oh, and would you happen to have a picture of your Stage One, I'm just curious about what the UTE-version looks like)

TLCOR wrote:

DaveS3 wrote:I've also towed a smashed falcon with my Stage 1 (3.5 & 4speed) and that towed it quite well, but drum breaks and trailers are scarey.. .

How is it scary?

(Oh, and would you happen to have a picture of your Stage One, I'm just curious about what the UTE-version looks like)

Look in the post your rover section, this a pic of Daves nice newly painted UTE in there.

i am abit bias... but any old rangie that doesnt have a deisel engine conversion is goin to be expensive to run as its gonna chew the juice.

I persoanlly wouldnt bother, but as i said i am very bias

TLCOR wrote:

DaveS3 wrote:I've also towed a smashed falcon with my Stage 1 (3.5 & 4speed) and that towed it quite well, but drum breaks and trailers are scarey.. .

How is it scary?

(Oh, and would you happen to have a picture of your Stage One, I'm just curious about what the UTE-version looks like)

The drums do not have the best braking ability from standard, then seem to fade when they get hot..

Coupla pics in the gallery but its about to be retired.

Dave.

DaveS3 wrote:

TLCOR wrote:

DaveS3 wrote:I've also towed a smashed falcon with my Stage 1 (3.5 & 4speed) and that towed it quite well, but drum breaks and trailers are scarey.. .

How is it scary?

(Oh, and would you happen to have a picture of your Stage One, I'm just curious about what the UTE-version looks like)

The drums do not have the best braking ability from standard, then seem to fade when they get hot..

Coupla pics in the gallery but its about to be retired.

Dave.

dont do it..
its a beauty..

cloughy wrote:1000 KILOMETRES!!!

Yea it'll do it but if you buy a 3.5 i hope your farking patient cause hills become mountains in a 3.5 and thats before you hook the trailer on!

Why not just use a rangie for both? Much comfier than riding a wild kangaroo! bounce bang CRASH

because idon't care about panels on the 40, have the suspension working 100% (no bounce or bang), and i kinda want to have a vehicle to drive round town if the inevitable moment occurs offroad.

as for distance... lpg is going to be a given.

I recently towed another Rangie on a car trailer with mine.
It coped OK - just.
It was mainly freeway and about 150km, and sat on about 90km/h.
Admittedly mine has the P76 4.4 (on gas), but it wasn't that painful.

If this trip is a regular occurance, then probably need a dedicated tow vehicle. An F100 (on gas) might be a better option.
If it's just occasionally, then a Rangie would cope.

I belive that Land Rover products have a 4000kg towing capacity. More than Landcruisers etc, but that's asking a bit much out of a 3.5.

I made a similar change of vehicle too. I went from a 1980 BJ42 (I sometimes miss the toughness, and simplicity of that of the 3B ) to a 97 disco on LPG . What a ride difference! I think the EFI (hotwire) in the early rangies have some problems when on Gas, because if the engine back fires the air box and AFM, are easily destroyed, but that if it's not tuned well.

I hear the LT77 5 speed manuals are weak, however I know a few guys who have well over 300k (hard work too) on them with no problems. (They don't shift into 5th below 80km/h). The ZF autos (out in 86 I think) are strong as well as the are the LT95 (4 speed manual).

The Rangies are not as easy to maintain as a LandCruiser, but LandCruiser are not as nice to ride in as a Rangie. Have you thought of a 60 series.

Also LPG can sometimes be a pain to run properly as well.

Andy

Ok, I feel dumb - but where's the rover-pictue/gallery-section?

TLCOR wrote:Ok, I feel dumb - but where's the rover-pictue/gallery-section?

second topic down in rover section

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=38884

Andy_B wrote:I made a similar change of vehicle too. I went from a 1980 BJ42 (I sometimes miss the toughness, and simplicity of that of the 3B ) to a 97 disco on LPG . What a ride difference! I think the EFI (hotwire) in the early rangies have some problems when on Gas, because if the engine back fires the air box and AFM, are easily destroyed, but that if it's not tuned well.

I hear the LT77 5 speed manuals are weak, however I know a few guys who have well over 300k (hard work too) on them with no problems. (They don't shift into 5th below 80km/h). The ZF autos (out in 86 I think) are strong as well as the are the LT95 (4 speed manual).

The Rangies are not as easy to maintain as a LandCruiser, but LandCruiser are not as nice to ride in as a Rangie. Have you thought of a 60 series.

Also LPG can sometimes be a pain to run properly as well.

Andy

have thought of a 60, but thought that rangies had a better towing capacity (both legally, and from a performance point) plus....

i want an excuse for a 2 door v8 rangie, they look and sound tuff as.

but seriously, would a 60 be better? would make more sense because i could raid it for CV's and parts if i bust them in the 40

bad_religion_au wrote:

Andy_B wrote:I made a similar change of vehicle too. I went from a 1980 BJ42 (I sometimes miss the toughness, and simplicity of that of the 3B ) to a 97 disco on LPG . What a ride difference! I think the EFI (hotwire) in the early rangies have some problems when on Gas, because if the engine back fires the air box and AFM, are easily destroyed, but that if it's not tuned well.

I hear the LT77 5 speed manuals are weak, however I know a few guys who have well over 300k (hard work too) on them with no problems. (They don't shift into 5th below 80km/h). The ZF autos (out in 86 I think) are strong as well as the are the LT95 (4 speed manual).

The Rangies are not as easy to maintain as a LandCruiser, but LandCruiser are not as nice to ride in as a Rangie. Have you thought of a 60 series.

Also LPG can sometimes be a pain to run properly as well.

Andy

have thought of a 60, but thought that rangies had a better towing capacity (both legally, and from a performance point) plus....

i want an excuse for a 2 door v8 rangie, they look and sound tuff as.

but seriously, would a 60 be better? would make more sense because i could raid it for CV's and parts if i bust them in the 40

I've owned nothing but RR's as 4wd's for a few years now! Being a past 40, 42 series owner But the simple answer is yes

If you think a 3.5L V8 is bad, wait till you see the fuel consumption of a 2F.

Go the rangie, but not a 3.5, look for one with a 4.4 or 350 chev or 302/351 Ford or a 340/360 hemi.

Also I would go the TF727 over the ZF if for towing heavy loads regulary. Either that or an LT95.

I have a 1983 4 Door with a 350 Chev, TF727 on 35's and it tows like a dream. I towed an 80 series on a car trailer behind it from Gosford to Katoomba and hardly knew it was there.

Maggot4x4 wrote:If you think a 3.5L V8 is bad, wait till you see the fuel consumption of a 2F.

i'm quite familiar with 2f consumption. on gas their liveable tho

This could be of interest

http://www.aulro.com/af/index.php?showtopic=11719

Maggot4x4 wrote:This could be of interest

http://www.aulro.com/af/index.php?showtopic=11719

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Guys,
Mate of mine is selling "JAFFA"
Orange Rangie Classic with 350 Chev V8 engineered.
4 speed, Roll cage, Racing seats, Winch Bar, Rear Spare wheel Carrier, 200litre LPG system, upgraded wiring loom and lots more.
Unfinished project, Used daily but needs some work.... dont all Rovers????

Make great Bush pig......

Registered
$3200 ono

Pix to come

Located in Ringwood, Vic

Selling to finance County V8 he just bought




Posted by Sclarke, he lurks around here somewhere to

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The Rangies are not as easy to maintain as a LandCruiser, but LandCruiser are not as nice to ride in as a Rangie. Have you thought of a 60 series.Also LPG can sometimes be a pain to run properly as well.

Andy[/quote]

In the price bracket he's looking at, rangies are much easier than a cruiser to work on.