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hye, just read that bodylift need qld transport ok.. anyone done it with out tellin them or gettin the car checked out?

I suppose there would be very few cars that have had them mod plated,a neighbor had the mod guy come out to tag bucket seats he fitted to the rear of his falcon,he told me that my rear locker now has to be mod plated by law also my lift and bigger tyres and after market turbo.The laws seem to be different for everyone.

Just do it. It's not hard.

There is no mod plate - they stamp and sign a piece of paper.

What's wrong with your 4by that it won't pass inspection?

Scott

NJ SWB wrote:Just do it. It's not hard.

There is no mod plate - they stamp and sign a piece of paper.

What's wrong with your 4by that it won't pass inspection?

Scott

agree, take it in and get it stamped.

bastard wrote:I suppose there would be very few cars that have had them mod plated,a neighbor had the mod guy come out to tag bucket seats he fitted to the rear of his falcon,he told me that my rear locker now has to be mod plated by law also my lift and bigger tyres and after market turbo.The laws seem to be different for everyone.

The laws on diffs, bigger tyres, suspension lift, and turbo's have been around for a long time, and are the same for everyone.

A suspension lift cannot be engineer aproved in QLD unless it is a complete suspension redesign, bigger tyres cannot be engineered at all, and a diff change and aftermarket turbo has required a mod plate for quite some time.

Shadow wrote:A suspension lift cannot be engineer aproved in QLD unless it is a complete suspension redesign

Pre NCOP Qld allowed any change in suspension height which did not alter bump or rebound travel by more than one third of original factory travel. No engineer approval required for that - don't know what happened if you wanted more.

Not sure what the NCOP says...

Scott

nah mate, hilux wouldn;t pass without taking out alot of things, like sub just sitin on back seat and air horns and other small shit. thanks, i guess no point just do it and no one will care anyway(cops)

NJ SWB wrote:

Shadow wrote:A suspension lift cannot be engineer aproved in QLD unless it is a complete suspension redesign

Pre NCOP Qld allowed any change in suspension height which did not alter bump or rebound travel by more than one third of original factory travel. No engineer approval required for that - don't know what happened if you wanted more.

Not sure what the NCOP says...

Scott

pre NCOP is now, and I can guarantee that you cant engineer a suspension modification of any kind, there is no mod code for it, there is only a mod code for a suspension re-design, which would mean a full custiom 3/4/10 link not just a set of longer springs. I cannot speak for more than 5 years ago, but that is how its been for 5 years in QLD.

Shadow wrote:pre NCOP is now, and I can guarantee that you cant engineer a suspension modification of any kind, there is no mod code for it, there is only a mod code for a suspension re-design, which would mean a full custiom 3/4/10 link not just a set of longer springs. I cannot speak for more than 5 years ago, but that is how its been for 5 years in QLD.

For anything less than the "one third change" rule you don't need an engineer's certificate - that's why there's no mod code. Just like there's no mod plate for a body lift, or for changing carburettors either.

Doesn't mean you can't do it.

Scott

Strange how the only ones saying "it's not hard" dont live in QLD and have f**k all idea of the laws here.



Pre NCOP QLD did require engineers certs for over 1/3 suspension travel change or 2" and was very hard to get - I have heard of so many people who could nto find an engineer who would touch it.

Body lift requires a full vehicle inspection at QLD DoT - and cannot be done at just "any" office.


And they WILL inspect the vehicle in full.

Beastmavster wrote:Strange how the only ones saying "it's not hard" dont live in QLD and have f**k all idea of the laws here.



Pre NCOP QLD did require engineers certs for over 1/3 suspension travel change or 2" and was very hard to get - I have heard of so many people who could nto find an engineer who would touch it.

Body lift requires a full vehicle inspection at QLD DoT - and cannot be done at just "any" office.


And they WILL inspect the vehicle in full.

Scott lived in QLD for quite a while AFAIK.

It is not hard, but you are right, they WILL USUALLY inspect the whole vehicle, not just the BL. I remember a few people on here finding out the hard way.

ISUZUROVER wrote:

Beastmavster wrote:Strange how the only ones saying "it's not hard" dont live in QLD and have f**k all idea of the laws here.



Body lift requires a full vehicle inspection at QLD DoT - and cannot be done at just "any" office.

And they WILL inspect the vehicle in full.

Scott lived in QLD for quite a while AFAIK.

It is not hard, but you are right, they WILL USUALLY inspect the whole vehicle, not just the BL. I remember a few people on here finding out the hard way.

Yes. Lived in Qld for 12 years, worked on the Redcliffe Peninsula for over 4 years.

My Pajero has a Qld approved body lift, and it wasn't hard. The suspension lift wasn't questioned, nor were the 31" tyres (outside the 15mm limit.)

Beastmavster wrote:Pre NCOP QLD did require engineers certs for over 1/3 suspension travel change or 2" and was very hard to get - I have heard of so many people who could nto find an engineer who would touch it.

Who here has disputed this? Are you upset by my "no mod plate for a body lift" comment? Having a mod plate and having approval are two different issues. My body lift has been approved, I have the paperwork to prove it, but I didn't receive a mod plate. Just like changing carburettors needs to meet DOT regulations, but there's no mod code so no mod plate.

So, I'm confused by your comments. Who has "f**k all idea of the laws" in Qld? Other than Qlders?

Scott

NJ SWB wrote:

ISUZUROVER wrote:

Beastmavster wrote:Strange how the only ones saying "it's not hard" dont live in QLD and have f**k all idea of the laws here.



Body lift requires a full vehicle inspection at QLD DoT - and cannot be done at just "any" office.

And they WILL inspect the vehicle in full.

Scott lived in QLD for quite a while AFAIK.

It is not hard, but you are right, they WILL USUALLY inspect the whole vehicle, not just the BL. I remember a few people on here finding out the hard way.

Yes. Lived in Qld for 12 years, worked on the Redcliffe Peninsula for over 4 years.

My Pajero has a Qld approved body lift, and it wasn't hard. The suspension lift wasn't questioned, nor were the 31" tyres (outside the 15mm limit.)

Beastmavster wrote:Pre NCOP QLD did require engineers certs for over 1/3 suspension travel change or 2" and was very hard to get - I have heard of so many people who could nto find an engineer who would touch it.

Who here has disputed this? Are you upset by my "no mod plate for a body lift" comment? Having a mod plate and having approval are two different issues. My body lift has been approved, I have the paperwork to prove it, but I didn't receive a mod plate. Just like changing carburettors needs to meet DOT regulations, but there's no mod code so no mod plate.

So, I'm confused by your comments. Who has "f**k all idea of the laws" in Qld? Other than Qlders?

Scott

So when you initially got the body lift done there was not an approval code for the lift, hence no mod plate.

OK. I can deal with that.


But to suggest it's some sort of easy rubber stamp exercise without needing a proper vehicle inspection could lead to some innocent guy getting f**ked over by DoT and having his car put off the road indefinately or even permanently. And yes, we've had issues like this on this modification type on this forum already.

Do you want to be responsible for that happening, and the possible comeuppance that follows?


Yes, if your car is 100% road legal and roadworthy, not excessively modded, and looks neat and tidy then it probably is a relatively easy exercise.

But, how many of the guys here on outerlimits could you say that about? 1 in 50? 1 in 100?

Shit, how many normal, unmodified 10 year old street cars can you say that about?

Beastmavster wrote:So when you initially got the body lift done there was not an approval code for the lift, hence no mod plate.

OK. I can deal with that.

But to suggest it's some sort of easy rubber stamp exercise without needing a proper vehicle inspection could lead to some innocent guy getting f**ked over by DoT and having his car put off the road indefinately or even permanently. And yes, we've had issues like this on this modification type on this forum already.

Do you want to be responsible for that happening, and the possible comeuppance that follows?

Yes, if your car is 100% road legal and roadworthy, not excessively modded, and looks neat and tidy then it probably is a relatively easy exercise.

But, how many of the guys here on outerlimits could you say that about? 1 in 50? 1 in 100?

Shit, how many normal, unmodified 10 year old street cars can you say that about?

NJ SWB wrote:What's wrong with your 4by that it won't pass inspection?

Did I suggest the 4by doesn't need inspection?

Yes, if your 4by is neat and tidy and roadworthy it is a simple exercise. If somebody is silly enough to take an unroadworthy vehicle to a Transport Department inspection I won't feel the slightest bit sorry for them.

If you're going to play the game, you've got to know the rules. This applies as much to vehicle modifications as any other past time.

Having recently moved to Adelaide I now have two modified vehicles which I need to get past registration authorities. I expect to have trouble, and I'll live with it.

Scott

Beastmavster wrote:Strange how the only ones saying "it's not hard" dont live in QLD and have f**k all idea of the laws here.


Body lift requires a full vehicle inspection at QLD DoT - and cannot be done at just "any" office.


And they WILL inspect the vehicle in full.

You sound very confident about this. I was wondering why???? because you are wrong.

Beastmavster wrote:But to suggest it's some sort of easy rubber stamp exercise without needing a proper vehicle inspection could lead to some innocent guy getting f**ked over by DoT and having his car put off the road indefinately or even permanently.

if the car is that unroadworthy, is it a bad thing to have it off the road?

Well considering that the three other DoT offices I approached other than Spring Hill (QLD Head office) refused to consider inspecting my vehicle and I only had 1" body lift I think I'm more right than most people in this thread.

Remember guys, according to QLD transport's own blurb applications for body lift also have to be requested in advance in writing with the exact specificiations of what you wanted to do:


http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTAS ... eb2004.pdf

Believe me or dont, IDGAF.

Of course if you have other personal experience in Gympie. Good luck on it if you did. What's your personal experience?

In more remote areas the rules get a bit slacker - I understand in remote areas even the local copper can approve things on QLD transports behalf.

Didn't know you needed a mod plate for lockers.

Reckon I might have to make a couple of phone calls tomorrow and see if that is true or not.

Beastmavster wrote:Well considering that the three other DoT offices I approached other than Spring Hill (QLD Head office) refused to consider inspecting my vehicle and I only had 1" body lift I think I'm more right than most people in this thread.

They can be a right helpfull bunch of at times.

Beastmavster wrote:In more remote areas the rules get a bit slacker - I understand in remote areas even the local copper can approve things on QLD transports behalf.

ROAD TRIP!

Believe me registering in Archer River or somewhere way out place like that sounds good. If they can actually find someone who can read the regs I'll be suprised.

Beastmavster wrote:Believe me registering in Archer River or somewhere way out place like that sounds good. If they can actually find someone who can read the regs I'll be suprised.