Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Gday All

My first post.

I have been looking at 4x4’s for the past few months now, mainly SWB Patrol/Mavs and Hilux’s. Recently, a LWB Suzuki Sierra came to my attention. I am interested in finding out how capable they are off-road? I have read a little about them through this forum and the 4wdmonthly forum, but thought I’d start a thread myself.

It’s a 1.3L 1987 SUZUKI SIERRA TYPE 3 LWB. $3,950.
The negative comments about the vehicle are:
"requires some work for road worthy (esp diff noisey/transfer case noisey)."

I’m interested in modding it quite a bit, 33” tyres , necessary lift , barwork, etc. I’m in QLD, wondering what I can to it do and still keep it road legal.

Whatcha reckon? Thanks in advance.

Alex

33s and legal don't go together in the same sentence in QLD when it comes to zooks

just get it, regester it, chuck some 33's on it, and the cops wont pull you over, if they do chuck stockies on then put the 33's back on.

and if you live on the sunny coast, join our club.

ps they are emensly capable.

Thanks for the replies. Much appreciated.

I had a bit of a look on legal mods and came across this thread.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=72868

I’m was hoping for a minimum of: 2” suspension lift, 2” body lift, 31” tyres.

I’m really interested in this Sierra, however the restrictions are making a hilux/patrol seem more tempting now.

Thanks again,

Alex

hilux/patrol seem more tempting now.

25L per 100k @ $1. 35 tempts me somewhat also

even 31's will be well illegal mate I got half way through building a lwb zook and quit due to qld laws

I did body lift, rockhoppers, efi engine, widetracks, rear locker, winch and so forth and it was very capable

But I just couldn't live with knowing that I wasn't insured on the road.... I paid my premiums like normal but it was unroadworthy in the eyes of Qld law Most people just risk it and the stoopid government doesn't give you much choice

But it wasn't a risk I was willing to take

Axl88 wrote:Thanks for the replies. Much appreciated.

I had a bit of a look on legal mods and came across this thread.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=72868

I’m was hoping for a minimum of: 2” suspension lift, 2” body lift, 31” tyres.

I’m really interested in this Sierra, however the restrictions are making a hilux/patrol seem more tempting now.

Thanks again,

Alex

the restrictions will apply to the hiluxes and patrols too. Maybe your best bet is to find out what you can and can't do with any vehicle before you buy

Thanks for the info all

the restrictions will apply to the hiluxes and patrols too. Maybe your best bet is to find out what you can and can't do with any vehicle before you buy

Since hiluxs/patrols have larger stock tyres, they can legally fit larger tyres right . Sorry for my newbie-ness (still woking it all out).

I guess i'll have to have to keep searching and researching. I'm now reading through http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTAS ... an05v2.pdf .

Cheers

Alex

Axl88 wrote: Since hiluxs/patrols have larger stock tyres, they can legally fit larger tyres right . Sorry for my newbie-ness (still woking it all out).

Yes but they have the same ruling and also the tyre to diff clearance is the different. Meaning that a 31 on a zook may be the same as a 33/34 on a lux,cruiser to get the same ground clearance.

Nic

It all makes for points to the "buy a falcon & trailer and build a buggy" argument.

the best way would be make it a trailer queen,or just mod it up and dont be stupid on the road so the police dont pull u over,i had a highly modded up swb sierra,big lift,32"tyres,exo,lockers,gears etc etc,and i never got looked at once

jo_shnz wrote:the best way would be make it a trailer queen,or just mod it up and dont be stupid on the road so the police dont pull u over,i had a highly modded up swb sierra,big lift,32"tyres,exo,lockers,gears etc etc,and i never got looked at once

it's not the problem of getting done by the cops its when you are in an accident and have no insurance coverage. Then things start going pear shaped in a big way

well dont crash into anyone,its not hard pay attention to the road

jo_shnz wrote:well dont crash into anyone,its not hard pay attention to the road

Grimbo said "accident", an accident is when something happens that you didn't intend on happening. It's not that hard to try and avoid accidents but they still do happen regardless.

well sit inside and play 4x4 on the playstaion and then no way ull get into a crash with a modded up 4x4

jo_shnz wrote:well dont crash into anyone,its not hard pay attention to the road

ok you continue living in your little dream world while he rest of us live in the real world. It has nothing to do with if you don't crash into anyone, what happens when some one else crashes into you or something happens that you have no control over

if they crash into u,its there fault so they have to pay for it,im not living in no dream world,doing all those mods and thinking theyre legal is a dream world,go back on the playstation web wheeler

jo_shnz wrote:if they crash into u,its there fault so they have to pay for it,im not living in no dream world,doing all those mods and thinking theyre legal is a dream world,go back on the playstation web wheeler

wow I've never actually met the village idiot before but here I am actually conversing with him. If the other person can prove that your vehicle is illegal they can use that as an out for insurance claims.

I'm not sure what you are getting at with your rambling about doing the mods and thinking they're legal. i thought we all agreed you can't do those ods in QLD and be legal, no onewas dreaming about it.

And as to the Playstation quip well…

Hippies.........that's the problem, too many damn hippies.

jo_shnz wrote:well sit inside and play 4x4 on the playstaion and then no way ull get into a crash with a modded up 4x4

that's not a real smart way to look at it dude no one means to have an accident but there's hundreds everyday

I'm sure some of them are just bad drivers but plenty are good drivers too Its easy enough to say it'll be right I just won't crash but when you do and they see big tyres etc you could be well farked

-Mick- wrote:when you do and they see big tyres etc you could be well farked

Thats "if" you don't become another fatality to add to this years road toll in the process

Accidents happen.

how can someone in the wrong get away with it if ur cars illegal,if they hit u how did ur illegal mods cause that?

an insurance company is going to look for any excuse possible to reduce their coverage, if there is damage to a car that should not have been on the road in the first place, they are going to use that as a reason to viod their liability Josh, come on man, whats going on?

just being a smart arse as im bored,but i still cant see how they get out of paying for ur car if theyre in the wrong,if u say is true thats a gay rule as they hit u,and theyre in the wrong

Its not hitting another car in an unroadworthy car that you worry about, thats only money. Its hittin a pedestrian, wether its theyre fault or not, that you worry about. If you do hit a pedestrian in an unroadworthy car, and especially knowing its unroadworthy, you will be up on manslaughter charges!

$3950 seems a bit high too for a zook with suspect diffs and transfer

jo_shnz wrote:just being a smart arse as im bored,but i still cant see how they get out of paying for ur car if theyre in the wrong,if u say is true thats a . rule as they hit u,and theyre in the wrong

some people will not admit fault even if it is their fault. so you will need an insurance company to go to bat for you in that case. insurance companies have big legal budgets.

So guys what is the laws in QLD.. I figure you can have 2” lift maximum including tires… So your limited to 30’s without any lift… By my understanding this would be awesome as a first 4by and it will be extremely capable with some lockers. From my brief time wheeling I have worked out a light zuk will out perform most heavier rigs.

There is heaps of other great reasons for owning a zuk.. but for every good point you will find a down fall, but that is the same for other rigs.

I say get the zuk and wheel it with minor mods.. and with any luck we will get some more uniform laws in the next year or two.

I found this info,

http://www.dotars.gov.au/transreg/vsb/P ... eb2006.pdf


From what I gather here you can legally lift your vehicle to compensate for an increase in tyre width. I read that you cannot increase your tyre diameter by more than 50mm than the tyre that is designated by the vehicle manufacturer.

Have a read....some good info

DeWsE wrote:So guys what is the laws in QLD.. I figure you can have 2” lift maximum including tires… So your limited to 30’s without any lift… By my understanding this would be awesome as a first 4by and it will be extremely capable with some lockers. From my brief time wheeling I have worked out a light zuk will out perform most heavier rigs.

There is heaps of other great reasons for owning a zuk.. but for every good point you will find a down fall, but that is the same for other rigs.

I say get the zuk and wheel it with minor mods.. and with any luck we will get some more uniform laws in the next year or two.

not so awesome....tyre increase in qld can only be 25mm. Height wise there is all sorts of distances measured between bump stops etc. to establish how height you can legally go. 50mm body lift is legal if approved by qld transport..but then you have to get ur car fully inspected