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dropped front hangers - hilux ?

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:22 am
by soo33y
Hey guys,

I want to get some more lift out of my hilux.

It currently has a 2" BD, 2" spring lift.

I am looking at doing either extended shackles or dropped front hangers...or maybe even both ?

Can I get away without having to get cross over steering ?

I just want another 2" of lift, so what would be the easiest, non-complicated way to do so ?

Cheers.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 8:14 am
by beefa125
mate im not trying to be a smartass but bigger tyres help..

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 8:57 am
by soo33y
Forgot to mention I'm running 33's.

I don't think 35's will fit with my current set-up.

Cheers.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:03 pm
by +dj_hansen+
Why do you want more lift?

To fit 35's, it should be possible with 2" BL and 2" Springlift if you have your front housing moved forward 30mm+ and some bumpstop finetuning. This can be done with offset perches available from superior, or getting the holes redrilled in your spring packs.

Extended shackles are illegal remember...

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 6:07 pm
by albey
If you use rear leaf springs at the front, it will move your housing forward 50mm, I don't know what mods are needed for your steering because i put Hi steer in at the same time so you may need to look at what is needed. But anyway I ran 35's with just 3" BL and it was fine just scrubed a little doing U-turns.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 6:48 pm
by chunderlicious
if you move your diff to forwards you'll need to change it anyway because the drag link and tie rod will hit each other

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:52 pm
by diesel028
I am currently running a 2" BL, 2" ext shackles, 2" dropped hangars, rear springs up front (diff forwards 2") and whatever " the springs are. Im still using the std style steering setup, with the adjustable dropped draglink. its not a good steering setup for 6-7" of lift, but it is getting me round ok atm. the good news for me tho is my hi steer is just about to go on, probably in the next week or so (as soon as i can clean my garage enough for the truck to get in).

As soon as the pics are working again, ill post some up.

Or if ya want me to email them to you, PM me.

Cheers

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 2:11 am
by soo33y
Hi diesel028,

Can you tell me why the dropped drag link isn't any good ?

Is it because of poor handling ?

Cheers.

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:03 pm
by Willy Hilux
Dude,
You will get to much bump steer out of a drop drag setup. You will end up busting ya thumbs if the wheels get caught in ruts. Go the cross over system. It is a piece of piss to do. If ya got the parts ready it whould only take ya a day.

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:53 pm
by Gribble
3 main reasons for fitting x over are.....

1. With the extra down travel you loose alot of steering because of the extreme angle the steering arm is on, a by product of that angle is the arm now rubs on the top of the unis (ie, bad)

2. The length of the torque rod and the leaf spring arent equal, and with extra travel this puts alot of tension on your torque rod mounts and the front spring hanger. One will eventually go, followed by the other, and im speaking from personal experiance here.

3. Bump steer, which has already been mentioned. This happens because the steering geometry is affected everytime the wheel moves up and down, not so much of an issue if your truck is at standard height and the steeering arm is parallel to the ground. You will still have bump steer in a x-over system where the arm is not parallel to the ground, but because the arm is now 3 times the length the effect is cut down by a 1/3rd and whatever percentage difference there is in the angle between the two, a very very notable difference not to mention a much safer one.

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 5:59 pm
by soo33y
I'm finding that my current set-up already has heaps of bump steer.

I've put on a new steering knuckle, ball joints and bushes. I'm running 33's, with the afformentioned 2" body lift and 2" springs.

I think my steering dampner is shot. Does the steering dampner make that much of a difference ? Especially with bump steer ?

Cheers.

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:28 pm
by roberts
hey mate iv got a dropped drag link and adjustable diff locator for sale you will require both these iteams :D

if you go high steer , put some money away because it ant cheap :cry:

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:35 pm
by Gribble
soo33y wrote:I think my steering dampner is shot. Does the steering dampner make that much of a difference ? Especially with bump steer ?

Cheers.
It wont cure it, but it will slow down the reaction alot.