Outer Limits 4x4 Board

I am trailering a 60 series down to bundy tomorrow I was just wondering what the leagities were if I roped it to the trailer rather than chaining it as I don't have any dogs to tighten it properly? I am in QLD as well.

Go to Stupercheap and get some tiedown straps. Lot easier, Lot quicker, but not as strong as chains.

Kramer wrote:I am trailering a 60 series down to bundy tomorrow I was just wondering what the leagities were if I roped it to the trailer rather than chaining it as I don't have any dogs to tighten it properly? I am in QLD as well.

who cares about legalities be more concerned with safety, yours and other road users.

Get some decent ratchet tie downs

I havent got dogs, but do have a long herc chain, and a shorter one you can use if you want. I have used them when trailering my Rocky. I just want them back when you are finished with them.

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BundyRumandCoke wrote:I havent got dogs, but do have a long herc chain, and a shorter one you can use if you want. I have used them when trailering my Rocky. I just want them back when you are finished with them.

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A rocky is hell of a lot lighter then a 60 I would chain/tie that 60 up real good!!

While trailering my mates car, a towie who happened past gave me some advice, and that was to tie the car down by its axles/swingarms, not the chassis, as thats considered unsafe as far as teh cops are concerned and they will give you a huge fine if they are in a bad mood.

i tow my trucks on a trailer behind a SWB.

i need to racthet strap all 4 corners down on the chassis.

the reason for this, is that if i tie it down at the diffs, the car on the trailer body rolls etc when i turn corners and because im towing it behind an SWB, everytime this happens it swings the car around alot.

with it tied down on the chassis, i dont have the movement and is much easier, safer and more confortable to tow.

screwy

Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:i tow my trucks on a trailer behind a SWB.

i need to racthet strap all 4 corners down on the chassis.

the reason for this, is that if i tie it down at the diffs, the car on the trailer body rolls etc when i turn corners and because im towing it behind an SWB, everytime this happens it swings the car around alot.

with it tied down on the chassis, i dont have the movement and is much easier, safer and more confortable to tow.

screwy

you pull it down to the bumpstops tho dont you?

MADZUKI wrote:

Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:i tow my trucks on a trailer behind a SWB.

i need to racthet strap all 4 corners down on the chassis.

the reason for this, is that if i tie it down at the diffs, the car on the trailer body rolls etc when i turn corners and because im towing it behind an SWB, everytime this happens it swings the car around alot.

with it tied down on the chassis, i dont have the movement and is much easier, safer and more confortable to tow.

screwy

you pull it down to the bumpstops tho dont you?

yes i do, keeps the car completely still. my springs are soft enough to do that too....

most rigs, a ratchet strap wont pull the suspension down that far. but i still find chassis strapping to be the way to go on a short wheel base.

if you have a wagon your towing with then the car isnt thown around as much when cornering if you strap down at the diffs.

each to there own i guess.

screwy

Thanks guys, I am towing it with a 100 series that has only a 1HZ and no turbo It will be a little slow but I will get there. I have some chain and a heap of rope so I think it will be safe enough. I will be chaining the diffs to the trailer first and then tie the body down to stop the roll!

BundyRumandCoke wrote:I havent got dogs, but do have a long herc chain, and a shorter one you can use if you want. I have used them when trailering my Rocky. I just want them back when you are finished with them.

PM me for contact details.

Thanks for the offer but I have some chain and it looks like the cops won't care how its tied on as long as its safe!

Kramer wrote:

BundyRumandCoke wrote:I havent got dogs, but do have a long herc chain, and a shorter one you can use if you want. I have used them when trailering my Rocky. I just want them back when you are finished with them.

PM me for contact details.

Thanks for the offer but I have some chain and it looks like the cops won't care how its tied on as long as its safe!

You could pick up a dog from 2nd hand shop/markets for about $10.

IMHO get the right gear, and then tow it. How much is the 100 series allowed to tow? 60 series is a pretty heavy old bus. Are you sure you're under the legal towing weights?


Micka

If the trailer has a winch on the front, attach chains to the back diff, and then winch it tight with the winch, then chain the front.

We have just done a restraining course at work and believe don't use rope.They going outlaw the use off rope for tying down loads due to not loading it up without ratcheting device's i would go and get some proper 50mm wide 2.5t strap's because if a dog runs in front of you and the cruiser comes of and hits something you are liable.

Depends on how your trailer is setup. Usually, I ratchet-strap the vehicle forward hard up against the front rail. I also add chains on the back in case the load decides to go forward. The rear chains are always slightly loose, and act as insurance, they don't hold the load. For long trips, I add loose chains to the front as well.

The tiedowns pull forward and down so the load can't really ride up and over the front rail of the trailer (but you never say NEVER !). Webbing straps are better than chain as they (usually) give some warning of impending failure. Chains can crack and let go with no warning at all.

On a 60 I pull it down via the axle, both sides. Be careful not to crush a brake line. On other vehicles I attach to the lower wishbones, as far outboard as possible.

This method means the only relative movement is from the load's tyres distorting. They can dance around on their suspension as much as they want without changing the tension on the restraints.

You are legally required to tie it down at 3 points in QLD. QLD transport has a booklet about safely carrying loads etc.

All the car carriers I see generally strap the axle/wishbone or the tyres.

I followed a guy towing a knackered up old Kingswood rolling shell behind a van the yesterday and as he went round a roundabout it just rolled off the back of the trailer!!!! Luckily it bellied out on the back lip of the trailer so the front wheels stayed on. He hadn't tied it down with anything, just thought the handbrake would hold it!!

Cossie wrote:I followed a guy towing a knackered up old Kingswood rolling shell behind a van the yesterday and as he went round a roundabout it just rolled off the back of the trailer!!!! Luckily it bellied out on the back lip of the trailer so the front wheels stayed on. He hadn't tied it down with anything, just thought the handbrake would hold it!!

some people are tools.