Outer Limits 4x4 Board

What are people's thoughts on these... it came with the 78 series so i'm not all that worried

It probably come straight from Toyota, They are causing all sorts of hassles here at my work because we have found they are just basically made really cheaply and along with the Toyota bullbar, are not as higher quality as we come to expect from warn and arb(its not a rebadged arb) . Depending on the bullbar, you need to climb under the car to operate the clutch, they only have one solinoid for in and out and the hooks supplied are not rated to the same weight as the winch ie 7000lb on a 9000lb winch. If you only need it to work once, you may get lucky, we have had them fail on the first go. We have had the cars for less than 1000kms and the bolts have been loose on the bar where they connect to the chassis and they remove the tow hooks when they put it on so no tow hooks or double line pull as they recommend. Mr landcruiser would be turning in his grave.

Well it'll be a good selling feature seeing as it never goes off road

I will give the opposite opinion of the one above

My X9 pulls half again as quick as a warn 9000 in real life, if not on paper, has held my truck on cliff faces, and ket pulling when the ARB bar it was attatched to self destructed so that the winch wasn't even held square and true. The clutch also never locks up like the warns tend to (that I have seen, anyway) and can always be flipped into free spool with no struggle at all.

Maybe I am just lucky and got the only good one, but I have been very happy with it.

Had one on my 60 series cruiser, never give any trouble.
If I cant get a hi mount at a good price I will buy another X-9 for my new Mav. My previous experence with the superwinch has been good
Dave

I don't know if it's the way Mr Toyota set them up before he gives them to us. They are brand new. Does anybody know why Warns have 4 solinoids and the X9s only have 2. I was a little concerned with the weight ratings of the hooks as well. If your happy with them, its good, Ours are Govt fire vehicles and the motto of our stuff is "Remember everything is supplied by the lowest bidder" so they may well just be a roll of cable wrapped around a piece of conduit under the front of a bullbar made from flattened coke cans and the X9 painted on with crayon as long as they were cheap.

I bought mine off toyota, so it should be the same

i have one also i havent used it yet but i bought it coz wendle told me 2

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SLOW

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SLOW

do you own one?

Sorry Wendle, Id have to say SLOW too (Painfully slow, Rerolling the cable under tension should be work for a community service person, especially when a few vehicles arrive at once), Did Toyota fit yours or just supply. I have a Highmount of my own, bought it second hand for $800 after selling my 8000 lowmount for $650. Spent $0 on it and give it a bit of a work out regularly. Best thing I ever bought second hand. Lasted two winters with regular driving at Toolangi and all ive done is grease it and change the oil a few weeks ago.

I just bought it off toyota cause it was cheap, and speed wasn't a concern, as winching is only a last resort type of deal..
I only ask why everyone says they are slow as I know mine pulls faster (like half again as quick) as a 9000 warn - similar cars winching across the same obstacle.
Maybe I got a freak defective fast one, and it is gonna work once or twice more and blow up? Or maybe I fuct the wiring up and made it faster (it is hard wired to momenterary switches on the grille and console), I don't know??

Whatever you have done, sounds pretty good.

Used it for its first real time on the week end. Pulled out a GQ out of the pole to pole bog up at zig zag. Had 35's, stacked full of camping gear, flat, busted cv & up hill. In my opinion it worked a treat... didn't even get hot. Yeah it's not a warn, however it's not bad for what was on the truck.