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I have put a deposit on a 90 model Turbo Diesel Auto 80 series and I will be putting a 3 inch lift in it and setting it up for more than the usual flex in the rear.

My Q is, I plan to put 16 inch rims and either 33 or 34 inch tyres on the Cruiser and I am looking for the perfect offset so the tyres don't scrub on the inside wheel arch or flares?

Thanks for you help.
Shane

4WD Stuff wrote:I have put a deposit on a 90 model Turbo Diesel Auto 80 series and I will be putting a 3 inch lift in it and setting it up for more than the usual flex in the rear.

My Q is, I plan to put 16 inch rims and either 33 or 34 inch tyres on the Cruiser and I am looking for the perfect offset so the tyres don't scrub on the inside wheel arch or flares?

Thanks for you help.
Shane

Ok, the 16 x 8 rims on the later models are centred, a standard later model (i.e. 1995) with fit 285/75 without rubbing, which is close to a 33".
Many people on this forum will say they have fitted up to 34" with that lift you mention (3") without a problem. Some may even say you'll be okay with 35". Of course brand to brand you will get a small variance due to lug sizes.

I have a 94 poverty pack. I run two tyres 35x12.5.15 Goodyear Wrangler MTR and 35x10.5.15 Simex Centipedes. Both of these are on 15x8 Sunraiser rims with a std landcruiser off set (i believe this is more than a nissan offset).

I apparently I have a 6" lift (fited before I purchased the vehicle). Now the only time I get rubbing on the top edge of the chassis rail and inside of the mudguard at the rear is at full compression, i.e. tyre pushed hard up into the bump stop. The tyres also just catch on the bolts at the rear of the mudguard holding the mud flap on. But does no damaged to the tyre or the bolt.

In terms of articulation I have an adjustable panhard bar front & rear and it articulates to the full limit of the shocks (Ranchos of unknown model with pin to eye conversions). I can have one tyre hard against the bump stop and the other spring just coming lose. So what I am trying to say is the back end of an 80 series articulates very well in stock form, the front well..... I am working on that.

I am in Brisbane so if you want to come and look just PM me.

Given what you guys have said I believe I should be fine but I like to be sure so:-

For my 3 inch lift I plan to have similar flex to a 6 inch lift and the 3 inch lift coil will have less turns and therefore will compress more or further than the 6 inch lift coil. This said the other side will still drop down as far as a 6 inch lift causing the compressed tyre to be on more of an angle therefore being more prone to hitting the inner chassis on the rear. Having said this you are hard up onto your bump stops so I should be fine.

(I plan to achieve the extra flex by tieing the coils in and getting longer shocks.)

What would you call the offset if it were 20mm out further than the standard 80 series offset? Would this then cause it to foul on the flare considering I do not plan to do any body lifts?
Thanks again
Shane

Ive got a 95 mdl with a 3 inch lift set up so it has max flex without the springs dropping out.Aftermarket arms in the front to correct castor but I dont have panards.....yet.

I have 285 mtrs on standard 16 inch rims and they do rub on both sides slightly under full flex.Nothing major though by any means.because I dont have adjustable panards my diff is sitting slightly to the left hence the tire rubs more on the right hard side

But never the less Im about to put some 315's on it as soon as Im home.Probably on rims with another 1 inch offset to reduce rubbing

Dubs

Thanks guys

If I get 1 inch offset rims with 33 x12.5 x 15 inch tyres do you think it will stick out past my guards??

Thanks
Shane

4WD Stuff wrote:Thanks guys

If I get 1 inch offset rims with 33 x12.5 x 15 inch tyres do you think it will stick out past my guards??

Thanks
Shane

Yes it will, standard rims with 285/75 are about 25 mm inside the flares (late model wider flares). You're talking about a wider tyre on an offset rim so for sure it will. Watch that they dont catch on your mudflaps and cause your flares to snap their brackets. Spent time hot glue'n one of mine back on this weekend, its fallen off 3 times all up (in as many years) but since I removed the mudflaps I haven't damaged them any further.

Also when it tucks up inside the rear gaurd, with the bigger offset the other lugs might rub the body as mine is close now and you're going bigger/wider/bit taller.

I have a 91 GXL with 285/75 cooper st's and they JUST fit under the flares so toy80 is right saying the later models have wider flares...
BTW i have only got a 2" OME kit & never had a problem with scrubbing

Joombi wrote:I have a 91 GXL with 285/75 cooper st's and they JUST fit under the flares so toy80 is right saying the later models have wider flares...
BTW i have only got a 2" OME kit & never had a problem with scrubbing

Yeah same here (2" suspension & 287/75's) but as I said before, I've have problems with the mudflaps. Apart from that no rubbing but they get close in the rear.

So you guys are saying I should stick with the standard rim offset for these bigger tyres.

Cheers

4WD Stuff wrote:So you guys are saying I should stick with the standard rim offset for these bigger tyres.

Cheers

I'd recommend it as when the tyre tucks up into the rear gaurd it will hit your flare. But I don't have the 3" suspension that you are intending on using, so maybe someone here can suggest whether it'll be okay or not with extra offset and 12.5" tyres.

I can only tell you that with 285/75, standard 16X8's and 2" lift it gets close.

Mate...been there done that...the white sunny rim comes in a few different offsets...the 60/75 series offset is best for 35's as it keeps them away from the insides, and they dont rub the outsides....also, the track is wider which means more stability for a lifted cruiser.....the std gxl rim is a strong rim, but the safety beads are miniscule, and when running low pressures, the tyres do fall off....alot easier than the roh rim...so my recommendation is ROH 16x8 to suit 60 series....i think it is +20
Andrew

Bit off topic but ....

i have a 95 gxl diesel, can i fit 15" rims or do i need to get 16's

i have a 95 gxl diesel, can i fit 15" rims or do i need to get 16's

I think you can fit 15 inch rims on it once you have trimmed down the caliper on the rear. If you do a search you wil find plenty of info on this. Unless you have drums on the rear and then you are fine.

Blue, mine is 94 with the larger callipers on the rears. Came with 16 inch rims but I had a set of Centipedes on 15 so I wanted to fit them.

To do this I had to take a few mms of material on the outside edge of the rear callipers. I know some people do this by putting them on a lathe or something but I do not have thic luxury. So I took to it with an angle grinder. I took a little of each time and refitted the wheel until it fitted with a small amount of clearance to the rim (few mms). I thing cleaned up the grinding marks with one of the linishing angle grinding pads.

No problems since although in mud you will wear paint of the rim because of the closer gap.
Cheers,
Stinger