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Just wondering from anyones expeirence's of having 35 tyres on a daily driver. whats good/or bad and would you do anyting different 2nd time around. Anything on wear and tear or would it be better to stick to 33's?
Any of your knowledge would be great before I do anything .
Cheers

They use more fuel, and dont break aswell.
But I did it on a swb GQ and was happy with the performance. Didnt use 5th very often though.

turps wrote:They use more fuel, and dont break aswell.
But I did it on a swb GQ and was happy with the performance. Didnt use 5th very often though.

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I run 35" All Terrains on my LWB, and they use more fuel (even after I fitted 4.6 gears) and don't stop as well. Also they are illegal, so I am trying to sell mine, to run 32" Streeters, and bigger offroad tyres.

didn't realise they were illegal????Not to sure in melbourne, will have to find out about that one. can you get it engineered? What would be the legal max size then?

tennismark wrote:didn't realise they were illegal????Not to sure in melbourne, will have to find out about that one. can you get it engineered? What would be the legal max size then?

Pretty sure the current rule is still a max of 15mm increase from teh max tyre size offered in Aust on that model. So currently the 235/85R16's are teh biggest I think (805mm dia).
So 820mm dia is the biggest. Or 32.2inches.
But from reading on here it is possible to get 35's enginereed to run on Patrols. Who does it I dont know. But these days I am guessing they would be looking for upgraqdes to atleast twin piston brakes (off EFI GQ's).

biggest tyre fitted to a GQ factory is about a 32", so plus your 15mm allowable increase in VIC, your possibly at a 33", if you're lucky....

just run them im running 35 on the road and yeah i use a little bit more fuel but its heaps better than having to change tyres all the time

I'm running 35s on my patrol. They are a bit vague on the handling compared to 33s or 31s. Mainly due to the bigger side walls. I'm not fussed about racing around corners at silly speeds so not too much of a drama, just get bit nervous around the police

turps wrote:They use more fuel, and dont break aswell.
But I did it on a swb GQ and was happy with the performance. Didnt use 5th very often though.

i hardly ever use 5th either. about the only time i get to use it is on the highway above 100k
will be different when i get my 4:88s soon

AFeral wrote:I'm running 35s on my patrol. They are a bit vague on the handling compared to 33s or 31s. Mainly due to the bigger side walls. I'm not fussed about racing around corners at silly speeds so not too much of a drama, just get bit nervous around the police

35's compromise safety, ie handling and braking as they are designed for the off road environment. Wouldn't you be more nervous about voiding your insurance...I mean what is a defect notice compared to writing off your car, someone else's vehicle and then having the assessor come along spot the tyres and say, "We are not paying"

Most insurance policies state that the vehicle must be kept in roadworthy condition and the driver must be licenced etc...

if you are running 35's, id tend to say you have some other gear on your truck that needs an engineers report, so you might as well try and get it all engineered and make it all legal,

just had my GQ Xtra cab ute engineered on 35's in NSW

One thing you will find running 35's is that you use first to take off all the time and find that you will often have to go back to second around most left hand corners if you aren't prepared to change your axle ratios. I used to find with 31/32's that you could pull through in third most of the time, which makes city driving just that bit more painful, suppose with an auto you wouldn't have that issue.

But yes they are much better offroad and changing tyres is a PITA, so i guess you make the compromise, which is what 4wding if full of.

I was figuring when i put the 35's on mine, the car looked much more in proportion compared to 32's as it has about 6" of lift, so would hopefully attract less attention from the cops as it didn't appear so high. Although all the other mods are engineered, I haven't got the tyres done yet. Making sure they don't stick out beyond the guards will help keep unwanted attention away.

Maybe see if you can borrow a set off someone and go for a drive and see if you can accept the change. If you have a NA diesel then it will be slow.

Nathan

ive got 35s on my stock GQ and since ive fitted them fuel has gone out the window.. Also because they are extreme tyres (think comp simex with big nobs on the side) they take around 5-10 mins to go into shape after sitting over nite. ( i dont know if thats normal or not)

Im going to buy a set of stock rims and drive on those again .. great off road but pita for daily driving and just bring them out for the weekend

so it seems like 33's are the better option for a daily driver/ weekend warrior without going to extreme. Better handling, better on road, and better for the truck.

Where abouts in Melbourne are you?

north of the city centre........princess aprk area

i run 35s on my gu ute, 6in lift and all engineered. i run sway bars on road and it drives like normal. i guess its whether or not engineer it.

generally whats the cost of getting things engineered????Do they have to test the gear out? As you can see I'm a bit green on this subject

ive got 35s on my SWB gq, on road, the only good thing i can say about them is they look good.

"ive got 35s on my SWB gq, on road, the only good thing i can say about them is they look good."

as u mate thats all that matters whilst cruzing around the city specialy whilst most d**K heads are in little risce rockets

if you leave your sway bars connected on road it feels not a lot different to smaller tyres except for acceleration and braking. Mine is a bit iffy at the moment because i am running 3.9 diffs. As soon as i go to 4.65 it should help a heap!! ..... You can legally go to 35" tyres by engineering them, but you will need speedo correction to get it passed. Easiest way to work it out is to utilise the speedo checks on most freeways, and see how far your odometer is out, and work that out as a percentage. Forget the speed, or using a GPS.... all you have to work out is how far it's out on the odometer. Then spend $140 odd on the correction you need. Marks Adaptors have them. I got the rest of the stuff on mine engineered, except for the tyres..... ran out of spondooly for the correction.

Is there anyone from WA on these forums that have 35's approved/engineered??, just wondering what you had to do to get them passed.
Cheers
Hoppy

now with my 4.88s its like its back to standard, actually a bit slower. im guessing im getting around 22-25lt per hundered but im not 100% on that yet.
to me its fine, i just drive acordingly

guys i'm confused as to why you say fuel economy is worse, i run 35"s and am sure that feul economy is the same as when i ran 33"s, i'm sure your taking into consideration that the change in tyre size affects the speedo but it therefore affects the odemetor ads well, 10% on the speedo as going to 10% on the odemetor, etc....

RoadNazi wrote:

AFeral wrote:I'm running 35s on my patrol. They are a bit vague on the handling compared to 33s or 31s. Mainly due to the bigger side walls. I'm not fussed about racing around corners at silly speeds so not too much of a drama, just get bit nervous around the police

35's compromise safety, ie handling and braking as they are designed for the off road environment. Wouldn't you be more nervous about voiding your insurance...I mean what is a defect notice compared to writing off your car, someone else's vehicle and then having the assessor come along spot the tyres and say, "We are not paying"

Most insurance policies state that the vehicle must be kept in roadworthy condition and the driver must be licenced etc...

Your coment about insurance is a very good one. If I had insurance. I have not got insurance for the very reason, that it would not even cover me if i did. Looking to get my car engineered soon. So as that i can insure it.

so it seems that if you want to run 35's you better get it engineered for safety and insurance purpose.
Maybe i can put up with it being a little slower, and having to mod the brakes, for it to look sweet and to be able to wheel extremely well at the drop of a hat.
Engineering cost's about what??????

I agree gorilla, my fuel consumtion is no different.

And of course they look great. My 35's are MTR's on black rims. Fitted to a GU with turbo mod and 3" mandrel exhaust and the fuel is about the same as 33's. If I actually drive the car in the correct rev range when taking off, and keep it just under 100k on freeways, I've even had the consumption lower than my 33's.

I find the 35 MTR's alot smoother and refined so to speak. They say they have that silica compound which makes the tyres roll better, but don't know how true that is. Could be an answer to the fuel consumption.

Breaking is ever so slightly worse, and the handling isn't that bad. I don't own a 4wd for the handling or speed. I can't afford the licence loss.

There also listed on my insurance policy as my insurance company don't care about tyre size height.

Try and borrow a set for a test run on your car first.

4by wrote:I agree gorilla, my fuel consumtion is no different.

And of course they look great. My 35's are MTR's on black rims. Fitted to a GU with turbo mod and 3" mandrel exhaust and the fuel is about the same as 33's. If I actually drive the car in the correct rev range when taking off, and keep it just under 100k on freeways, I've even had the consumption lower than my 33's.

I find the 35 MTR's alot smoother and refined so to speak. They say they have that silica compound which makes the tyres roll better, but don't know how true that is. Could be an answer to the fuel consumption.

Breaking is ever so slightly worse, and the handling isn't that bad. I don't own a 4wd for the handling or speed. I can't afford the licence loss.

There also listed on my insurance policy as my insurance company don't care about tyre size height.

Try and borrow a set for a test run on your car first.

Who are you with?????? We should all be with them!
Or is this because you have the tyres engineered?

If not, just wait until u have an accident, if you get the wrong person looking at the car from the insurance mob...... no go. They say lots of things, until it comes time for a claim, then they will simply say its in the fine print, and low and behold, fine print will read car need to be roadworthy and in good condition with engineers etc etc.

marin

had cooper STT 35's on myold gu ute, TD42T, with 4" coils, no swaybars,standard gearing, it handled on road as good if not better than when standard height. More fuel usage of cos, bout 15-16L/100km which i was happy with. Power loss was hardly noticable once the exhaust was fitted. the only diffrence was it was a bit more revs needed in high range to take off on hills, and also engine was working slightly more at highway speeds, but not realy noticable. Off road unless diff gears are fitted or reduction t/case gears, it sucks!

We have an option to sell vehicle insurance at work.

If I remember correctly, as long as the policy schedule lists the mod or accessories, your covered.

Insurance companys have to provide their customers with a Product Disclosure Statement & Insurance Policy book which is their fine print. I don't think they can list something in your schedule as covered and then not cover the item. It's yours and their duty of disclosure and if you disclose everything truthfully, and they accept it, then you should have no probs.

They may refuse a claim "if your car has been converted or modified and these conversions or modifications are not shown in your schedule."

"For Example, if you put a high powered engine into your car or lower its suspension or give it oversized wheels or tyres."

My tyres, and accessories are listed in my schedule so it would be hard for them to reject a claim. I don't recall reading anything about getting an engineer report for tyres, and I'm sure they would have requested it otherwise they wouldn't cover it in the policy.