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Engine Swap - 2H into 3B Shorty 40
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:58 am
by Hardcorr
I've got a 60 series with a 2H diseasel in it, and I'm looking at putting it into my 40 Shorty which currently has a 3B diseasel in it.
Can anyone tell me if this is a straight forward swap, or am I going to need to cut engine mounts and so forth?
Cheers
Corry
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:44 am
by Reddo
Not 100% sure whether your g-box will bolt to the back of the 2H, that’s a question maybe someone else can answer. You will need to weld in new mounts, and you might have to adjust your radiator forward. I put a 2H in mine, but i also put the 60 series g-box in there.
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:27 pm
by midi73
Yes you will need to move engine mounts. you will need the gearbox from a 2h, and you will need to modify the radiator shroud or get a 6 cyl one to bolt on. You will also need to look at the fact that the inlet and exhaust are on the opposite sides (I think).
Cheers.
Dave.
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:52 pm
by Hardcorr
Thanks guys, yes the exhaust is on the opposite side, as is the Starter motor and other ancillaries.
I've got a complete 60, so the box and transfer were going to go with it, just for ease, but I was unsure on the mounts.
Having to reweld the mounts is a pain, if it was a straight swap, I was keen to do it, but I might wait until I've got all the bits for the V8 conversion, and do the mods once.
Cheers
Corry
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:04 pm
by midi73
I would definatly wait for the v8 conversion if that is what you are going to do. I personaly dont think that the little increase you would get from the 2h would be worth the effort.
Dave.
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:47 pm
by Hardcorr
Yeah, I know what your saying Dave. It was just that the 2H is sitting in the 60 doing nothing and in top condition, and the 3B blows more smoke than a bunch of teenage boys on hooter.
Thought it might have been worth it for the short term. I've got 3 shorty's and am working on the chassis of one to do the build up from there. figuring that there is quite a few months before I've got the chassis ready to take the body off the one I am driving now.
Anyway, sounds like to much work involved and will take me away from the project one at the moment.
Thanks for all replies,
Cheers
Corry
Hi there
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:41 pm
by ellard
Hi there
I have just finished a conversion of a 2h diesel into a BJ 73, again its not a race car but lots of torque (great off road).
Yes nearly everything electrical & mechanical is on the oposite side, starter motor, alternator Aircond compressor and even the clutch slave cylinder. You will have to move the engine mounts (not a major problem)
I has simular delimer as you but the wife blew my old 3b up - and i bought a very cheap 60 series wagon for about 1/4 of the price of another second hand 3b engine.
I used the gear box out of the 60 series as the 3b gearbox has a longer input shaft and longer bell housing - this created other problems as the 60 series gear box had an overdive (splits 1- 2 - 3 - 4 -5 gear) and push button 4x4 instead of the manual lever selector. Again this wasnt all that difficlult to put in as toyota used this gear box in some MWB's and the wirring was already in the vehicle.
I wish you well with your project - if you were to ask me would I do it again somedays I would say yes and other no.
Best of luck
Wayne
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:44 am
by hokey
Wouldn't mounts from a HJ45/47 bolt in?
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:21 pm
by midi73
hokey wrote:Wouldn't mounts from a HJ45/47 bolt in?
It is not the mounts on the engine that is the problem, it is the mounts that are welded onto the chassis. They are to far back towards the firewall for the 2h to bolt to them.
Cheers.
Dave
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:51 pm
by lay80n
Didn't BJ on roids do this swap into his old yellow 40 pos year ago. If you can contact him he might be able to help you (and ya mum
)
Layto....
Hi there
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:11 pm
by ellard
hi there
Yes - the mounts have to be chopped out and moved forwards, I looked at every other option.
Thanks
Wayne