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i am interested in putting a locker into my 90 vitara altho i can afford an ARB air locker and i was thinking of a detroit locker or a mini spool...... what are your thoughts fellas...
keep in mind i a uni student an dont have much cash....


thanks

yes you can fit both detroit lockers and mini spools to vitara. I dont know anyone in Australia who sells mini spools so you would have to import.

i wanted to put it in the rear................

would you no a place in melb i can get a detroit........

what are your thought .... what betta out of the 2

pietro_vs_zook wrote:i wanted to put it in the rear................

front or rear doesnt make much difference.

so in regards to the rear..... which would you choose and mini spool or detroit.......?


i undecided..........

Dont think they do a full blown detroit for suzukis. only the easy lockers?

I would go for a locker as it allows slip for corners as a spool does not and will chirp tyres worse in carparks and that.

Nic

ok so they dont make detroit as such altho i can get a "LOCKER" .. what you mean by that..... sorry i a bit new to this....

I think the "Detroit Locker" basically replaces whole hole hemisphere and the "Detroit easy locker" is basically the components inside the locker.

basically the same for your purpose, Mainly how people refer to them.

Nic

pietro_vs_zook wrote:ok so they dont make detroit as such altho i can get a "LOCKER" .. what you mean by that..... sorry i a bit new to this....

detriot e-z lockers are the same as lockright's and Lokka's they will automaticly unlock when cornering, but will stay locked up when power is applied. whether on road a spool is better is a matter of opinion. some people say that e-z lockers are unpredictable whilst once you have a feel for the spool it is always the same. others say that e-z lockers give better drivability better turning circle and that they are not that unpredictable you just learn how to drive them smoothly. The only way to really know what you like would be to go for a drive in car with a detriot and to go for a drive with a locked rear.

detriot e-z lockers are the same as lockright's and Lokka's they will automaticly unlock when cornering, but will stay locked up when power is applied. whether on road a spool is better is a matter of opinion. some people say that e-z lockers are unpredictable whilst once you have a feel for the spool it is always the same. others say that e-z lockers give better drivability better turning circle and that they are not that unpredictable you just learn how to drive them smoothly. The only way to really know what you like would be to go for a drive in car with a detriot and to go for a drive with a locked rear.



ok thanks for all that help, i might just go the locker...

cheeres buddie....z!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you can afford the ARB it's the way to go, there when you need it - not when you don't. Next would be the detroit etc. where your driving style may need to be addressed. I wouldn't go the spool on a DD same as a welded diff, ie no slip at all.

so your saying that a detroit locker is the way to go.. well thats the cheaper option compared to ARB air locker......???

do they make a detriot locker for my zokkie.....??? and what a "DD"...???

Yes they make one. Detroit Ezy Locker.

DD = Daily driver.

Nic

ok awsome...... now the thing is were do i get one..... does anyone one no of any places in melb.....??????

TJM megastores sell lockrights. I dont knwo anyone else in melbourne that sells them. TJM want much more then the cost of importing.

might help you to decide
Im looking myself and also have limited income
http://4wheeldrive.about.com/cs/ttdrive ... 61503a.htm

thanks alot bud........ what u going to go with.....? do you no a place in melb???

Opposite lock sell detroit or go to a diff specialist (probably cheaper too) these guys would to selling to street cars and trucks etc as well.

If anyone is keen for a lockright front I'm prolly sellin mine soon as I'm goin airlocker

JUST THOUGHT I WOULD MENTION THAT I RANG A FEW PLACES AND TJM MEGASTORE FOR A LOCKRIGHT $650 AND FOR A SPOOL $450

OPPOSITE LOCK....EASY LOCK $627

*ALL THESE PRICES ARE WITH NO FTTING COST...

IS THIS CHEAP.......???

CALMINI PRICE......

http://www.puresuzuki.com/lockright.htm

1989-2001 Sidekick / Tracker / Vitara
STYLE PART NUMBER PRICE
Rear SK1512 $239.95 us dollar..... aus dollar $322
Rear w/ Coupler SK1532 $299.95us dollar and converted to aus dollas $402.....

how much would shipping be.....

Last time i ordered stuff from overseas, it was a detroit ez-locker for a sierra. The grand total for everything, was under $400. That was from ordering to in the car running. www.roadlessgear.com
Layto....

and how was the traction difference.......
is it predictable say entereing a round about and you are half in and you apply throdle will it kick out sideways........??????

the detriot ez locker and the Lock right locker appears not to fit my vitara.....
it olny says it fits a Samurai/Sidekick/Tracker vehicles.


a silly question is any of these the same diff set up as my 90 modle swb vit..?

Another one for you Lay80n. Does the sierra locker fit the jimny by any chance? For that price I'd deffinatly get one.

Cheers

a sidekick is the american version of the vitara.

We have genuine USA made Lock Rights for zooks at $399 each at the moment.

I think the vitara is called a sidekick in usa....Is this right?

oh and escudo is the european version of the vitara. just for future use

pietro_vs_zook wrote:and how was the traction difference.......
is it predictable say entereing a round about and you are half in and you apply throdle will it kick out sideways........??????

the detriot ez locker and the Lock right locker appears not to fit my vitara.....
it olny says it fits a Samurai/Sidekick/Tracker vehicles.


a silly question is any of these the same diff set up as my 90 modle swb vit..?

Difference in traction offroad is great. Road driving is fine too (its a daily driver). You just have to remember its their, thats all. It will squeal tyres if you gas it round tight turns, on round abouts you either roll with clutch in, or heaps light throttle, or give it just enough throttle to lock up. It will jerk and carry on if you get it wrong, but its easy to figure out quickly. Sometimes on quick gear changes it will make the car kick out, but i just avoid quick race cahnges on road (its a zook after all). Auto lockers are fairly sensetive to tyre pressure differences too, you must have the same rolling radius on each side of the axle. Running different tyre pressuress left to right will make them randomly unlock and carry on, same with different size tyres, so make sure if you go this way you havea full size spare or are able to correct this if you havea blow out somehow. There is some clunk/click noise assosiated from the action, but as i said, you get used to it and forget its their. I happy with mine's opperation, esp considering the cost. Oh, yeah in my cost, i installed it myself (im a mechanic), but i did include diff oil and sealant in the $400 price). mini spools area vailable in the states too, if that interests anybody. WI chose not to get the optional side couplers with my locker, and have had no problem using the side gears in the locker setup. I was told that the couplers can make them harsher, but i have no first hand experience sorry. I was considering ARB for my rig, but i dont plan to keep the zook axles any longer than i have to, so the extra $$$ was too much to upgrade to. Saurai=sierra, Sidekick and tracker are Vits i think (sidekick deff is, pretty sure GEO Tracker is the same if not very simmilar). Liam's price for lockrights isnt to bad either. These would be the American richmond lock-right i guessing, not the crappy aust lokka brand ones. When i looked into it and asked a few US guys what they recomended, they said either one was pretty good, i just chose the detroit. As for Jimny, no idea sorry. There are a few Jinmy people that could answer your question though.

Layto....

mate thanks for that....... i appreciate that alot........!!!!!!! i think i will go the EZ detroit locker.. .....

now for another question fellas, my vitara is stock altho running 29" muds....is it a better idea to 2" lift it or just spend the money on a Detroit EZ locker......??