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Help i am a virgin to 4wd.

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:42 pm
by pome
Hi all
I have recently bought a nissan navara 1995 4x4 ute. I have just put some 31/10.5 15 wheels on it, drives a lot better. I would like to lift her with 2inch lift blocks, but not sure if it is possable and how many blocks i would need.
Next question is. I have been looking for a bumper replacement bull bar, with no joy. So any help or advice would be great. Thanks.

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:12 pm
by Gribble
First of all im pretty sure navaras have their rear ends sprung under, i could be wrong, but if they are sprung over then lifting blocks would work, sprung under they are just going to lower your car.

For the front you will need to wind up the torsion springs which has its pro's and cons, do a search and you will find all the info you need for that.

And, what do you mean excactly by a bumper replacement bullbar? :?

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:40 pm
by lay80n
Gribble wrote:First of all im pretty sure navaras have their rear ends sprung under, i could be wrong, but if they are sprung over then lifting blocks would work, sprung under they are just going to lower your car.

For the front you will need to wind up the torsion springs which has its pro's and cons, do a search and you will find all the info you need for that.

And, what do you mean excactly by a bumper replacement bullbar? :?
Think Navs are sprung over, blocks will work but will also cause worse axle wrap, so may be solving one problem will create another one. Also NEVER stack lift blocks in the suspension. If you are talking about body lift blocks, then you need to check how many body mounting points you have, and you need that many. You may also need new bolts or make allowance for captive bolts etc.

Layto....

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:42 pm
by muppet_man67
bumper replacement bullbar, as in not an over the bumper bullbar nuge bar sort of thing that you see on vans and some suzukis.

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:57 pm
by Gribble
muppet_man67 wrote:bumper replacement bullbar, as in not an over the bumper bullbar nuge bar sort of thing that you see on vans and some suzukis.
I see,

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:41 pm
by C.A.Moseley
don't f%*# him around guys,
I'm pretty sure ARB would make a bar for a navara.
As for the lift you can crank up the torshion bars in the front a bit, in the rear you can get/make longer shackles, get your leafs reset or buy reset springs

I just looked up the bars in my ARB book.
The rrp prices are:
Bull bars-
part no. 3238120 $1302 or 3238130 $1248
Winch bars-
part no. 3438120 $1464 or 3438130 $1409
ARB is well known/one of the best so it wont be hard to get hold of one

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:05 pm
by Nev
I thought he may have been meaning body lift blocks in which case just count the number of body mounting positions as layto said...probably around 10 or 12 i would guess?

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:16 pm
by Beastmavster
I think he means body lift blocks whcih he can definately do - from the factory a Navara is basically already a Pathfinder ute with a bodylift kit. Any decent 4wd shop should be able to help out. For legality you will need to speak to an automotive engineer in your state.

You can do some additional suspension lift on it if you want too - running 33"s is perfectly feasible. Anything beyond that is asking for things to break in the front end.

ARB, TJM etc all make bullbars for the Navara - steel, alloy etc. You can also buy them from Nissan or most wreckers.


There's probably more tech on Navaras on US sites (from my pitiful memory called Hardbody over there) since most hardcore 4 wheelers here use Patrols which are not available in the US.

Good luck and happy wheeling.

Thanks

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:46 pm
by pome
Thanks all for your help and info.
One more stupid question. What do you mean by cranking up the front torshion bar.

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:53 pm
by Beastmavster
Torsion bars can actually be wound up and down to increse/reduce height.

The consequence is that the more height you lift, then you will generally start to lose some of your suspension flex.

As such you dont want to jack it up too much.

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:29 pm
by Mick.
You would be better off getting a bullbar off Nissan. There genuine bullbars for the narvaras are about $700 from memory and are made buy ARB without the ARB price tag. ;)

Cheers Mick.

4wd

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:31 pm
by Webbie
Hey mate you may be a 4wd virgin ,but one thing is for sure ,now you own a 4x4 your wallet will be getting plenty of action and your bank account will be F@CKED :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)

Re: 4wd

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:36 pm
by j-top paj
Webbie wrote:Hey mate you may be a 4wd virgin ,but one thing is for sure ,now you own a 4x4 your wallet will be getting plenty of action and your bank account will be F@CKED :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)
lol how does 4x4 look in uppercase??

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:37 pm
by j-top paj
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