Outer Limits 4x4 Board

just wanting to know who does it in melbourne and roughly how much?? and am i better off doing that than a 4" spring lift? cheers

i have been looking into this for a few months now and if done yourself you will spend less then 1k, but getting a workshop to do it ive heard around 3-4k as its a bit of work, welding, cutting etc

4" lift kits are about 1500 plus fitting

you dont really have to cut and weld the front diff if you dont want as long as you are using the standard springs as you only use the front diff in 4wd and the drive line angles want matter to much off road, but it is recommended

What are your reasons for wanting to do a spring over?

if you do the work yourself i see no reason it will cost more than about $300

if you can salvage your mounts all you need to do is reweld them on and possibly do some stuff with shock absorber mounts.

hokey wrote:What are your reasons for wanting to do a spring over?

To see if he can put it on it's side easier
Don't do it 350, 60's are quite capable without a SOA, and they stay on their wheels a lot more often.

quick60 wrote:

hokey wrote:What are your reasons for wanting to do a spring over?

To see if he can put it on it's side easier
Don't do it 350, 60's are quite capable without a SOA, and they stay on their wheels a lot more often.

Well if deciding between an SOA and a 4" lift i would think the final centre of gravity is the same (very close), and a SOA is probably going to be cheaper if done yourself. Also if doing SOA you might aswell cut and turn your knuckles while the diff housings are out aswell.

Shadow wrote:

quick60 wrote:

hokey wrote:What are your reasons for wanting to do a spring over?

To see if he can put it on it's side easier
Don't do it 350, 60's are quite capable without a SOA, and they stay on their wheels a lot more often.

Well if deciding between an SOA and a 4" lift i would think the final centre of gravity is the same (very close), and a SOA is probably going to be cheaper if done yourself. Also if doing SOA you might aswell cut and turn your knuckles while the diff housings are out aswell.

but you have to get a SPOA engineered to be legal, so there are alot more legal ramifications and insurance worries.

Springovers on 60's are just wrong.

They can fit 35's with a shackle lift alone.

What size tyres do you plan to run??

They are really tippy when sprung over.

What area do you live in? Maybe worth posting this up so that people can direct you to a local shop or club.

hmm i don't think he is coming back.
but yeh i asked why he was doing it cause it is not necessary to fit 35's as they get too top heavy when sprung over. if he did a ute chop or took some weight out it might be better. and shadow a SOA is about 6" lift not 4. it makes a BIG difference!
Great on a 40 though

yeah i can fit 35s with 2" body lift only

i have also lisfted the rear and doing shackle lift soon but i do want to run some 38s a bit later on

yeh if its just to fit tyres jus go a body lift with a minimal spring lift
i run 3" in the spring 2 in the body and 2" in the shackles and i fit 37's no drama
most probs wit bigger tyres cum wit the offset of the rims
if u run a biggish offset then u'll start hittin the front of the guards
and the top too

well with a SOA you can go a softer and sagged spring pack so you should get better flex and the springs will cost nothing cause your just using the ones toyota fitted 20 years ago.

I think SOA is a good option if you can do the work yourself and get an engineers certificate for about $300-$400.

SOA= TIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

hokey wrote:hmm i don't think he is coming back.
but yeh i asked why he was doing it cause it is not necessary to fit 35's as they get too top heavy when sprung over. if he did a ute chop or took some weight out it might be better. and shadow a SOA is about 6" lift not 4. it makes a BIG difference!
Great on a 40 though

i think its even more + tyres which must his main reason for doing it i think it would be to high for everyday driving.i was thinking it for my middie but i use it for work as well so iam going for spring and shackle cost more but enough for 35's and still road friendly.

2" suspension and 2" body will work. Shackles will give you better flex over body lift but you are also lifting the whole car with shackles rather than just the body, so body would be a lower COG.

I see lots of SOA on ih8mud but those guys also seem to run massive tyres legally, which if you are increasing your track width the height is less of a problem.

it has ome springs which i think are 2",i just got longer shackles 3". it fits 35's but i just want to give them a bit more clearance coz it rubs sumtimes

Put a small body lift in it and then trim from there. A SPOA on a 60 series makes for a pretty high COG, and a lot of work to get it right. Alternatively space the bumpstops down to stop the rubbing and then ftr longer shocks to suit the new compressed length.

It will only flex better SPOA than what you have now if you invert the springs on compression which will mean they have a short life.

You are lucky on a 60 that you don't have the firewall clearance issues that most of us have.

If it was my car, I would be cutting guards until I could get the 35's on with no lift and meybe a bit of bumpstop spacer and then lifting enough to give an acceptable ride.

Just my 2c worth

thanks for all the info