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anyone with a 1.3L carby 16 Valve engine
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:43 pm
by josh9465
i have heard about the low km's imports of the 16V engine that bolts straight up to a sierra gearbox.
anyone out there whos had this engine put in.
is there a difference in power.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:03 pm
by mud4b
its a g13bb.
but its the carby bit that has me stuffed?
maybe out of a swift?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:08 pm
by nicbeer
Arnt the BB's all efi or are some of them carb.
If so do a search as discussed before a couple times.
Let me know what Prices u get as i am after one as well in Perth. May save a bit of post sending a couple...
Nic
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:10 pm
by mud4b
nicbeer wrote:Arnt the BB's all efi or are some of them carb.
If so do a search as discussed before a couple times.
Let me know what Prices u get as i am after one as well in Perth. May save a bit of post sending a couple...
Nic
yup they are all efi...
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:18 pm
by nicbeer
I have a carby and intake manifold at home that i believe is off a G13BB,
Mark, would you know by pics what it may be off? I know from memory that it has oval intakes in the manifold.
Nic
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:29 pm
by josh9465
well sukukishop in cannington told me they can get hold of import 16v Carby motors that bolt straight on. and if u want to efi it u can later.
but the cheapest option was to go with the import engine use ur same carby, they make an adapter plate to suit the stock carby.
they also put vitara extractors. but still 1.3L. just 16V. $3000 to fit all up if they do it.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:33 pm
by mud4b
nicbeer wrote:I have a carby and intake manifold at home that i believe is off a G13BB,
Mark, would you know by pics what it may be off? I know from memory that it has oval intakes in the manifold.
Nic
yup prolly would..
sounds like a swift.. the vits have the same shape but with a half circle cutout above it (make any sense)
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:34 pm
by mud4b
josh9465 wrote:well sukukishop in cannington told me they can get hold of import 16v Carby motors that bolt straight on. and if u want to efi it u can later.
but the cheapest option was to go with the import engine use ur same carby, they make an adapter plate to suit the stock carby.
they also put vitara extractors. but still 1.3L. just 16V. $3000 to fit all up if they do it.
very interresting... are you sure its not single point injection as it looks similar to a carb?
for that price it sounds very good.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:01 pm
by nicbeer
Kewl, will try get some photos.
Mark- Have you got any G13BB's in at the moment or coming in?
Nic
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:06 pm
by josh9465
nope definately said wasnt efi. cause the first option was the easiest/cheapest. plus i didnt have to wire an efi. which i have no idea how.
engine swap i can manage.........just!
apparently the guy at arb osb pk had one of these engines put it. if anyone knows him.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:57 pm
by mud4b
nicbeer wrote:Kewl, will try get some photos.
Mark- Have you got any G13BB's in at the moment or coming in?
Nic
only mine but its for the buggy..
i tried chasing one up last week but found nothing.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:37 pm
by joeblow
ok.unless its a g13bb efi than there is no such thing as a 1.3 16 valve.1.6 16 valves came out for the german and canadian markets with a carby that ran the same pressure as an efi.otherwise they were all mpi or throttle body.any queries or photos e mail me.ihave all workshop manuals on cd rom.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:51 pm
by Gutless
are you sure its not a G13BA 16v SOHC MPI motor?? Its full fuel injection with 16v vit head and it was fitted to coilies in japan. This is the only 16V 1.3L motor in existance that I am aware of.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:14 pm
by joeblow
heres a couple of photos of a 1.6 16 valvle throttle body conversion i did a while ago.
e mail me some photos if you have them.


Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:57 pm
by Rotazuk
Never heard or seen a 1.3 16v carby but would not be surprised if one was made for the local japan market . Also may be out of a swift etc . I have a 1.6 16v carb motor in teh shed at the moment , out of teh swift . Would make for an easy conversion if you wanted to stay away from efi .
I got it for the head to replace a 1.6 16v efi head but they are different , ports are different for the injector etc . Bugger eh .
Chris
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:15 pm
by joeblow
if you plan on engineering your zook make sure its a 16 valve efi as the 16 valve carby does not comply with australian design rules.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:21 pm
by mud4b
hang on i think everone is getting mixed up here...
the original; post was a 1.3lt 16v carby engine...
now everyone is talking about 1.6 either single point throttle body or throttle body(same thing as a single point) or the multi point.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:33 pm
by Santos
Nothing on the Suzuki Japan website shows a G13 with 16v and a carby.
(in fact anything after like 1990 is single point efi instead of carby, australia really milked the carbies way past their used by date.)
Still here's a thought
If you wanted to carby a EFI G13bb (early jimny and current carry motor) .
The old Swift sedan 1.6l were 16v singlepoint right?
So perharps you can get the intake manifold from that and put a carby on it?
Be nice to see this engine carby 16 if it exist though.. know it's history.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:05 pm
by nicbeer
I got Pics.
G13BB carby. Confirmed by Drew. JAP Import AFAIK
as per below.
Any more pics - Ask.
Nic

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:58 pm
by Santos
Cool, not where in the world was the g13bb carby available?
The port's look like the ones on a DOHC... anyone here know if the inlet manifold gasket for the G13B DOHC and the g13BB sOCH are interchangible?
Ideas cooking

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:31 pm
by josh9465
so the guy at suzukishop was correct. he did say with the 16V 1.3L there was more power than the 8V 1.3L.
dont know how much tho. how much more could u get from an extra 8Vs?
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:12 pm
by joeblow
The port's look like the ones on a DOHC... anyone here know if the inlet manifold gasket for the G13B DOHC and the g13BB sOCH are interchangible?
same gasket as 1.6 16 valve swift throttle body.
looks like a nicer carb than the ausie version.mmmmmm....i hate carbies.
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:06 pm
by Santos
dont know how much tho. how much more could u get from an extra 8Vs?
Well a mazda b6 8v carb engine has 61kw, and a mazda 16v carb engine has 64kw.
I think there would be other things to consider when you compare the g13b 8v and g13bb 16v you got things to consider like compression ratio, cam, etc etc.