Outer Limits 4x4 Board

I recently made some contact with 4wdSystems after seeing an old advertisement for Lokka difflocks. (Thanks Troy )

I asked if there was a locker for an F78 Rocky... I got this in reply

hi,this model was never available. however have some overseas interest latly so it may happen. have put on list to advise if ever happens tom

So, if any, particularly F78 owners want some Lokka Lock-Rites... I suggest you email tom@4wdsystems.com.au

I'm not sure if it is for F78 only... or older models as well...

Bundy.. can you help us out with diff compatibility??

Just emailed this :



Grape vines whispering that you guys may be planning on making Lokka Lockers for F78 Rocky's.... Don't forget F75's either .... I can guarantee you'll sell em in aus, there's heaps of daihatsu owners out there crying for lockers - Feroza's too.... DONT MAKE ME USE THE WELDER ON MY DIFF :((.

I know of atleast 20 people australia wide who would buy them in an instant if they were available. Hell, if you get them going i'll let you advertise on the side of my 4b if you want


Cheers

on accasion i have contact with air locker engineer daniel.i'll ask him if arb have ever measured up a rocky diff.

RockyF70 wrote:Just emailed this :front diff for feroza, pleeeeeze!
(welder already got the rear)would be glad to be a wheeling billboard as well



Grape vines whispering that you guys may be planning on making Lokka Lockers for F78 Rocky's.... Don't forget F75's either .... I can guarantee you'll sell em in aus, there's heaps of daihatsu owners out there crying for lockers - Feroza's too.... DONT MAKE ME USE THE WELDER ON MY DIFF :((.

I know of atleast 20 people australia wide who would buy them in an instant if they were available. Hell, if you get them going i'll let you advertise on the side of my 4b if you want


Cheers

Rockzilla

Where's all the other people that have emailed huh??

SPAM THEM (4wd Systems). Let them know there are people out there crying for daihatsu lockers. There must be atleast 30 active posters/viewers in hatsu section, now I dont care if you dont really want the damn lockers, just email saying you do .... get your friends too, relatives, pets, nanna, GET EVERYONE TO EMAIL EM

Time to put my flame suit on

I've got one on my rocky....

BabyGodzillaGTi-R wrote:Time to put my flame suit on

I've got one on my rocky....

Flame suite I'd say get your bullet proof vest on, but your not in aus so its too far for me to kill you and pinch your diffss....... hmmm, Nth QLD's not that far... bundyyyyy

I inquired with TJM last week and got this in reponse to asking about a Pro Locker for the Rocky:

Hi Nick thanks for your email inquiry I am just replying regarding equipment for your Daihatsu. Firstly as far as a Pro Locker goes at the moment we don't have one available but in the future we may look at doing one.

Some people may finally be realising how good the Rockys are

Without wanting to be negative.....

Given the small numbers of them remaining on our roads (and the fact they are no longer produced) I wouldn't like the chances of any company suddenly deciding to tool up for Rocky lockers. At least not without you having to spend big $$$ for a special low volume run.

RockyF70 wrote:

BabyGodzillaGTi-R wrote:Time to put my flame suit on

I've got one on my rocky....

Flame suite I'd say get your bullet proof vest on, but your not in aus so its too far for me to kill you and pinch your diffss....... hmmm, Nth QLD's not that far... bundyyyyy

Dont worry u dont have to be so envious once i plonk a set of Volvo C303 axles on the Rocky.

BabyGodzillaGTi-R wrote:

RockyF70 wrote:

BabyGodzillaGTi-R wrote:Time to put my flame suit on

I've got one on my rocky....

Flame suite I'd say get your bullet proof vest on, but your not in aus so its too far for me to kill you and pinch your diffss....... hmmm, Nth QLD's not that far... bundyyyyy

Dont worry u dont have to be so envious once i plonk a set of Volvo C303 axles on the Rocky.

Once you do can I have your lockrite ????? PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPRETTYPLEASE

Lock Rite never made a locker for Rockys.
Detroit did.

How much do you want to bet on that?

HotFourOk wrote:How much do you want to bet on that?

How old is that add? Cant be very old, its nice and shiny and colour. If thos B*****ds once made em it means they still have the drawings and molds and crap laying around

I think it was from 2000 or so... ask Troy aka Rock Monkey.. he gave it to me

If they made the Lokka, how come ppl in oz are still bitching there isn't a locker diff for Rockys?
Oddly it only mentions front.

BabyGodzillaGTi-R wrote:If they made the Lokka, how come ppl in oz are still bitching there isn't a locker diff for Rockys?
Oddly it only mentions front.

Cause they dont make em anymore, i checked their site, not listed.

so where are they.ive been lookin for years never been able to find 1 if they made them they should be in rockys (and ive only heard off 1 and it was on this site)so are there people out there with lokkas and dont know about it or are they all sitting on a shelf somewhere.

WHERE ARE ALL THE LOKKAS GONE

dai-hard wrote: WHERE ARE ALL THE LOKKAS GONE

My thoughts....

They stopped making them- if something was selling then you wouldn't stop making it.

Therefore, there probably aren't many out there as they didn't sell!

They may have had to many issues with them too.I have had one let go on me and I know a lot of other people had the same problem.Lokkas are shit.Buy genuine

dubs wrote:Buy genuine

Buy genuine what?

OMG... Don't you think if we could buy genuine we would

HotFourOk wrote:OMG... Don't you think if we could buy genuine we would

x elleventy trillion even if they were $1000 bux a piece and we had to live on home brand baked beans for a month to save $$ for em i'm sure most here would

Not a big fan of Auto-lockers. Plan to go the Air locker option, given time. If that fails, maybe a second hand lsd centre for the rear at least (rare as rocking horse doo doo, i know).
Cheers anyway.

Wooooaaaaahhhhh been a while since I have cruised THIS forum! You guys are still talking about the same stuff that the old Aus WARFS guys were talking about. Now I am reaching back into the foggy memories of about 2000, when there were a heap of us running about looking for lockers.

As I recall Mike H, the guru of Daihatsu looked very long and hard into the options for his Feroza and he included the Rocky's in his emails. he cited the WARFS site and a few others. Offered his own vehicle as a test bed, I may be wrong but there were some movements on that front by ARB. However the end result of all this work and enquiries were...not enough interest, not enough capital and a market that was not big enough or lucrative enough to tool up the production line.

A mass email was sent out and people were asked if they would email this bloke or commit to a certain expense and still no movement.

So the end result after allot of hard work was a negative. A few people in Australia had some lockers in the front, but they were the minority and generally something found in imported gear from the US and Malaysia/Phillipines. Most people who wanted diffs then went to a Mike special CIG diff after he trialled it on his Feroza.

I had an F75RV and I made some enquiries after the very same ad that Troy sent out and I was informed that they did not stock the lokkers because of a lack of interest and also a market. (Started to see a commmon thread after this.)

So those of us who had rockies struggled on to no avail till eventually we all threw up our hands in disgust and moved on to other cheaper to maintain vehicles with more gear. (Mike got a Surf, I got a Hilux, Troy went through a MK and 4Runner, Shane went to doof doof show cars, Mark went to a Disco and then a Cruiser, Mad Dog went to a Hilux and then an 80 and I think Murray still has his Ferwoaza...apologies if I forgot anyone.) For most of us, the arrival of families and changes in locations also dictated vehicles. I live in the alpine belt and needed a ute for wood carting amongst other ute only activities.

The simpla fact was that even though there was a glut of equipment for Daihatsu comparatively speaking in the US and also the Phillipines/Malaysia, that is because the vehicles sold better there. Rocky's were never the hot seller that they hoped, compared to other vehicles. Feroza's sold well, but they sold to a certain market, which was not that interested in modifying it beyond some seat covers, maybe a steering wheel and an air freshener hanging from the rear vision mirror.

So seven years on from when I bought my Rocky what has happened? Daihatsu has all but pulled out of Australia, people are still trying to get modifications for a vehicle that was never a big seller and eventually people move on. Not meaning to rain on your parade guys and I salute you for the effort your putting in, making an old Rocky owner proud, however like our attempt, you will strike one major hurdle. You're dealing with corporations and their primary motivation for anything is fiscal and as long as Daihatsu's make a minority market, they will not tool up. Sorry.

Anyway, keep it rubber side down and dirty.

Muddy.

Go away traitor























J/K Very interesting info there, no where did i put that MIG.....

RockyF70 wrote:Go away traitor




















J/K Very interesting info there, no where did i put that MIG.....

i can do it for u

tabrocky wrote:Not a big fan of Auto-lockers. Plan to go the Air locker option, given time. If that fails, maybe a second hand lsd centre for the rear at least (rare as rocking horse doo doo, i know).
Cheers anyway.

Guessing you realise that there isnt either an air locker, or auto locker that is for sale now to fit rocky diffs. If you can find the detroits for rocky diffs second hand (rare as hens teeth) then maybe. The daihatsu LSD is useless anyway, would only be a waste of time. Options are really either weld the suckers, or do a diff swap.

Layto....

Yeah, dont bother looking for a LSD centre, they arn't that special

Yeah lay80n, I was aware of the difficulty (impossability) of sourcing a pre-made locker for the rocky, thats why I plan to make my own...
I have had discussions with a local guy who makes air lockers for landcruisers, landrovers, etc, etc and he has offered to give me some help with the construction of one for my rocky. He claims his units to be superior to other more common (shall be left nameless) brands. This is yet be seen, but im willing to give it a go.
All I need is a diff to start measuring and playing with.
If it is sucessful/reliable I MAY consider making some for other people. Thats a big "may" because I don't have heaps of spare time to spend in the shed churning these things out. I would like to have something working within the next 12 months but im not making promisses as life is to unpredictable.

Axle swaps have there advantages and disadvantages.
For this type of vehicle I personally wouldn't do it, but thats just my 5 cents.
I am one of those (possibly strange) people who likes to keep things in as close to the original form as possible... from the outside at least
There is something about letting people pre-judge something they know nothing about, then sticking it two them when you leave in a cloud of dust...
Like a stock standard looking commodore/falcon that actually has a blown V8 under the hood...Or a highly turboed cruiser or the like that would see the little boy racers put back in there place.

Cheers

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