2h idle
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:21 pm
does the 2H have seperate settings for hot and cold idle? if so can someone explain. thanks, joel
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:02 pm
if they do, i think mine was broken.....
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:03 pm
me too, that's what im getting atcarts wrote:if they do, i think mine was broken.....
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:07 pm
looking at the pump, i dont believe they do have a different hot/cold idle setting. The only 2 temp sensors on the motor, as far as I can recall, are the temp gauge sender, and the temp sensor for the glow system (or at least i thought there was).
What symptoms are you having?
What symptoms are you having?
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:09 pm
just idling differently in the morn as to once warm. I was told that it did have a cold start something, but it was not from a reliable source.
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:16 pm
mine always idled lower when it was cold....i just used to pull the throttle control out a little when it was cold to bring the idle speed up to normal until it had been running a couple of minutes... never any dramas.
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:19 pm
I had been doing the same, then I just adjusted the idle speed fullstop. Im still very curious as to whether the inj. pump has a setting. A diapragm perhaps.carts wrote:mine always idled lower when it was cold....i just used to pull the throttle control out a little when it was cold to bring the idle speed up to normal until it had been running a couple of minutes... never any dramas.
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:14 pm
Would it have anything to do with the governor?
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:33 pm
Mine does this too... I have never thought anything more of it... Set at about 750rpm on warm idle... Doesnt even reach 500 at 5am these days... Its fine once it warms up... I just need to use the acellarator to get the revs up otherwise it will cut out due to lack of oil pressure...
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:35 pm
Sounds exactly like mine, but mine rarely, very rarely cuts out due to lack of pressure.vanzbrown wrote:Mine does this too... I have never thought anything more of it... Set at about 750rpm on warm idle... Doesnt even reach 500 at 5am these days... Its fine once it warms up... I just need to use the acellarator to get the revs up otherwise it will cut out due to lack of oil pressure...
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:26 pm
If they run for ten seconds with out oil pressure they do cut out. So if it runs real slow it wont pickup oil pressure in ten seconds sometimes if it's real cold. Otherwise consider an oil change oil check for a problem.
There is no cold idle setting. What they have is a cold start function on the EDIC motor which pulls it to full rich on start up to aid with cold starts. This only works when crankning. If you ever suffer from "black smoke syndrome", where by intermittently your 60 blows ludicrous amounts of black smoke, the EDIC is prbably stuck in the start position when driving.
Cheers
There is no cold idle setting. What they have is a cold start function on the EDIC motor which pulls it to full rich on start up to aid with cold starts. This only works when crankning. If you ever suffer from "black smoke syndrome", where by intermittently your 60 blows ludicrous amounts of black smoke, the EDIC is prbably stuck in the start position when driving.
Cheers
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:33 pm
Mine has never blown black some, only small amounts of maybe white on start up.
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:58 am
I know that the 12ht has the high idle when its cold, and then when it warms up it will drop back down to normal.
Sammy
Sammy
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:47 am
G'day Joel. Don't have an answer for you. Just wanted to say hi!
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:56 am
That's sweetSixty's Guy wrote:G'day Joel. Don't have an answer for you. Just wanted to say hi!
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:35 pm
haha Hi mark!
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:36 pm
I was wandering if the 2H had the same, or similar?sambo wrote:I know that the 12ht has the high idle when its cold, and then when it warms up it will drop back down to normal.
Sammy
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:03 pm
my 13bt use to do the same but doesn't anymore and mine idles fine when hot and you stop at the next set off lights and its done to 500 i use the hand throttle but when it goes again it to highsambo wrote:I know that the 12ht has the high idle when its cold, and then when it warms up it will drop back down to normal.
Sammy
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:07 am
I think i answered that for you in my previous post.joel HJ60 wrote:I was wandering if the 2H had the same, or similar?sambo wrote:I know that the 12ht has the high idle when its cold, and then when it warms up it will drop back down to normal.
Sammy
The australian 2H does not have a cold idle setting....
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:58 pm
if my cold setting doesn't how do i fix it 
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:36 pm
No, in your previous post you were being a smart a*s!Ruffy wrote:I think i answered that for you in my previous post.joel HJ60 wrote:I was wandering if the 2H had the same, or similar?sambo wrote:I know that the 12ht has the high idle when its cold, and then when it warms up it will drop back down to normal.
Sammy
The australian 2H does not have a cold idle setting....
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:16 am
Ok.. the post prior to the one prior to the post i previously posted.Sixty's Guy wrote:No, in your previous post you were being a smart a*s!Ruffy wrote:I think i answered that for you in my previous post.joel HJ60 wrote:I was wandering if the 2H had the same, or similar?sambo wrote:I know that the 12ht has the high idle when its cold, and then when it warms up it will drop back down to normal.
Sammy
The australian 2H does not have a cold idle setting....
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:51 am
2h don't have one that I can see.
It should idle at 650 when warm
there is an idle up for air con though(to around 900 warm), and i think theres a power steering one or something on auto's (not that there are many of those around here)
mine idles crap when cold around 500 according to the dash tacho (not the most accurate). It shakes the shit out of the cruiser though. never dies from lack of oil pressure.
if your 2h idles so slow when cold that it cuts out due to oil pressure, then it probably has a glow plug problem, or the idle (when warm) is too low
It should idle at 650 when warm
there is an idle up for air con though(to around 900 warm), and i think theres a power steering one or something on auto's (not that there are many of those around here)
mine idles crap when cold around 500 according to the dash tacho (not the most accurate). It shakes the shit out of the cruiser though. never dies from lack of oil pressure.
if your 2h idles so slow when cold that it cuts out due to oil pressure, then it probably has a glow plug problem, or the idle (when warm) is too low
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:43 pm
I would look myself, but I'm not at my own PC, but I'm sure this would be covered in the 600mb 2H engine manual you can download from birfield and is linked in the bible.
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:40 pm
i never have a problem with oil pressure, consistently greater than 100PSI when cold lol
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:51 pm
Oil is thicker when cold. Usually a cold motor will have higher oil pressure than a hot motor. Are you not gettin oil pressure when you start the motor from cold start. It might be a lubrication system problem or the wrong oil.
Layto....
Layto....
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:40 pm
Idle speed is adjusted at the inlet manifold. It should be done at normal operating temp, areound 650-750rpm. Cold idle speed is sorted out via hand throttle. There are no settings on the pump which can be adjusted to alter this as it is a vaccuum controlled governor set up. If idle speed is too high you have a hole in the diaphragm in the back of the pump.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.